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high mileage oil, is it bogus? #811772 05/13/07 04:16 PM
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Mudlover27 Offline OP
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Hello all
Ok so I am hearing all about this high mileage oil stuff and wanted to know if anyone has seen a report stating that what they claim is really true. I have been using mobile 1 for years and now that I have 100K was thinking about this high mileage stuff, but I think its just a scam, what do you all think
ML


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Re: high mileage oil, is it bogus? [Re: Mudlover27] #811773 05/13/07 04:30 PM
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I think you are correct in your thinking. Oils in a crankcase are so similiar it would scare you into next week!
I use the oil that is on sale whenever I get my oil changed..
It seems all oil is canned in the same place by the same canning company, these days. So really how much difference can there be when it all comes from the same place?
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Re: high mileage oil, is it bogus? [Re: BigJim] #811774 05/13/07 06:07 PM
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Fred Blackstone Offline
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I think you are correct in your thinking. Oils in a crankcase are so similiar it would scare you into next week!
I use the oil that is on sale whenever I get my oil changed..
It seems all oil is canned in the same place by the same canning company, these days. So really how much difference can there be when it all comes from the same place?
Big Jim
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Bull Crap! Illiterate oversimplifications! Obviously, not all engine oils and additives are the same, nor are all engine oils and additives made in the same place. Similar in function, yes. Some better for specific applications, yes! True, some oil manufacturers do provide products for specific retail outlets to expand their sales, but don't assume your purchasing Mobil One formula at Walmart in anything but a Mobile One shipping container!


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Re: high mileage oil, is it bogus? [Re: Fred Blackstone] #811775 05/13/07 06:42 PM
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FRed all you or I either one have to go on are the ads sponsered by the oil companys..
My personal experience with different brands of oil has told me to use the store brands and to change oil at 5 or 6 thousand miles..
I have used mobil1 and just about any brand you can name... with no SEEABLE difference in any aspect of the engine..
Companys can advertise just about anything they wish...WHO is going to stand up and say they are lieing? With modern. clean burning, low compression engines I see no difference at all in oils.
Specially now that the major oil companys do not mix their own oil.. There are specific companys around the country that mix most if not ALL oil from their stock and ship it in different cans. No longer do you get northern oil in a can marked as such..
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Re: high mileage oil, is it bogus? [Re: BigJim] #811776 05/13/07 09:24 PM
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Fred Blackstone Offline
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The majority of engine oils are blended with different oils and additives having characteristics to give your engine better lubrication under different operating conditions, such as, extreme high or low temperatures. Viscosity at different temperatures is the major issue, but other concerns, such as chemical buffering, sealing, etc. are also important. There are cheap oils available that do not meet certain standards and will be abusive to your engine.

Last edited by Fred Blackstone; 05/13/07 09:50 PM.

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Re: high mileage oil, is it bogus? [Re: Fred Blackstone] #811777 05/13/07 10:43 PM
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Mudlover27 Offline OP
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Fred,
I need a recap here are you saying that if you buy Mobile 1 from Walmart (ie doing your own oil change) that the oil inside the the can is something other then Mobile one.????? I find that one real hard to swallow, MAYBE I just misunderstood the quote
ML


98 wrangler 2.5l 3 inch rustys, 2 inch body, 33X12.5 MTR's DETROIT LOCKER, 4.88 gears, moser axles, Dana 44 (rubicon housing)
Re: high mileage oil, is it bogus? [Re: Mudlover27] #811778 05/14/07 04:41 PM
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BigJim Offline
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I think Fred remembers too much of the ads he sees on the TV!
Actually all we have to go on about different oils is the ads the different oil companys throw at us daily...or hourly in some cases. Them companys can SAY anything they wish to convert us over to their oil. How do we really know what difference there is between their oil and what is in our engine NOW?
Some companys even resort to giving away oil to be placed in new cars...such as corvettes and cadilliacs.. thinking we will think THAT oil is better stuff because it is in the high priced vehicles..
Don't be mislead by the ads.. oil is oil! Any chemicals included in the oil are in such minimal proportions that they hardly matter at all.
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Re: high mileage oil, is it bogus? [Re: Mudlover27] #811779 05/17/07 02:25 AM
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Fred Blackstone Offline
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mudlover, I've been away for the past few days. Yeah, you misread my post. My comment was just the oposite from what you elucidated! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />


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Re: high mileage oil, is it bogus? [Re: BigJim] #811780 05/17/07 03:32 AM
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Fred Blackstone Offline
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Big Jim, you continue to disperse your oversimplifications and do nothing to learn the truth about engine oils. All one has to do is plug in the words engine oil or something similar and do a search on-line to read and learn about engine oils.
Just FYI, I do not have TV service! When I moved to NW Colorado I intentionally didn't hook-up the TV cable; I have significantly changed my lifestyle. I've too many projects I'd like to complete and prefer reading biographies of American Patriots while listening to classical music when I don't feel like working.
If you do check out fundamental information about engine oils, you'll read about different standards for oil; the standards that each manufacturer must meet to label their product(s)' shipping containers. Some companies sell products that do not meet the certifying agencies' standards and engine manufacturers' recommendations. Some enine oils are better than other engine oils for certain types of engines and operating conditions. Almost all engine oils are similar, not identical or the same! Additives are significant to the engine oil's ability to protect your engine. Additives in engine oils are a small percentage of the total product's composition, but actually do play important roles improving viscosities, neutralizing corrosive acids leaking into the engine oil from the gaseous fireside of combustion engines, sealing the engine oil side of the engine, to just name a few of the major functions of the additives.
Similar in function, some better than others for specific applications ... don't use your regular brand 10w-30 for the CJ7 in your high performance motorcycle!


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Re: high mileage oil, is it bogus? [Re: Fred Blackstone] #811781 05/17/07 04:41 AM
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BigJim Offline
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Fred you write what should be common knowledge. My point is.. if your manual says use API 10W30 oil...then they are all so similar that it doesn't matter which is used.
At one time the different colored cans of oil came from the wells of the different oil companies. Some in the east, some in the south, a few from the North Sea.. and it could be argued between costumers of each how good their oil was.
However today the oil is all made by distributors Maybe two or three of them around the country.
These distributors mix their oil and can it in different colored cans and ship it out for the different brands.
Maybe they have different additives in the different cans... maybe not! Surely the additives are not a secret? So any oil company can give directions to add any additives they wish to their oil.
All the hype that is printed about what certain companies add to their oil is a JOKE to me.
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