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HELP with my timing belt install #814867 05/28/07 05:13 PM
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 105
Juancho Offline OP
Wheeler
I changed the timing belt on my 98 MS. It won't start now. I took everything off to see if it had jumped a tooth and it had. Installed everything again. Still won't start. I removed everything again (third time in two days) to see if it jumped the tooth again and everything lined up perfect. To make sure I even went as far as taking off the intake manifold and Passenger side valve cover to see if #1 was indeed TDC, it was. So I installed everything again (i can do it with my eyes closed now) and, you guessed it, still won't start.

Can anybody give me some ideas as to why this is happening? All three marks are dead on.

Thanks for any help.


98 Montero Sport LS with Off Road Package (ext. tire mount, factory locking diff)
Yokohama Geolander AT+II 31x10.5x15
Superwinch Manual Hubs
Kenwood head unit and Music Keg
Sirius Radio
Garmin Zumo 550 GPS
Black Widow Alarm with Remote Start
Re: HELP with my timing belt install [Re: Juancho] #814868 05/29/07 05:21 AM
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Juancho Offline OP
Wheeler
Please, any help would be great.


98 Montero Sport LS with Off Road Package (ext. tire mount, factory locking diff)
Yokohama Geolander AT+II 31x10.5x15
Superwinch Manual Hubs
Kenwood head unit and Music Keg
Sirius Radio
Garmin Zumo 550 GPS
Black Widow Alarm with Remote Start
Re: HELP with my timing belt install [Re: Juancho] #814869 05/29/07 06:18 AM
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jmdt Offline
Wheeler
I can't think of any obvious reasons do you need to reset the ECU? Maybe more info would help. When you turn the key, exactly what happens?


Jim

1994 Montero LS
Re: HELP with my timing belt install [Re: Juancho] #814870 05/29/07 06:48 AM
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off-roader Offline
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Well, I'm no master troubleshooter so hopefully someone who's more adept will chime in.

In the mean time...

IIRC you need fuel, air and spark for combustion to occur. What's missing for your rig?

Check for spark by removing a plug and trying to start your rig with the plug held close to the engine block. If there's a spark then that should be ok.

Now check for fuel. Does the inside of the chamber smell of gasoline?

As for checking for compression/air, more than likely air is getting in but we can check the compression w/ a gauge although I would expect this isn't the main issue.


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98 Montero with the Winter Package
89 Montero minty clean and reserved for overlanding trips or Cars and Coffee events
96SR (3.15:1 xcase, 35's) gone to the rust gods
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Re: HELP with my timing belt install [Re: off-roader] #814871 05/29/07 06:57 AM
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52degrees Offline
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Look for a crank sensor disconnected. Very common across all makes.


1990 Montero RS (In pieces... for now)

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Re: HELP with my timing belt install [Re: 52degrees] #814872 05/29/07 03:13 PM
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Juancho Offline OP
Wheeler
When I turn the key, the engine turns. It sounds as if my battery was a bit low, slow turn over, the battery is fully charged though.

I do have fuel and air. I will check spark next.

Where is the crank sensor? I can check that also.

Thanks for ideas so far.


98 Montero Sport LS with Off Road Package (ext. tire mount, factory locking diff)
Yokohama Geolander AT+II 31x10.5x15
Superwinch Manual Hubs
Kenwood head unit and Music Keg
Sirius Radio
Garmin Zumo 550 GPS
Black Widow Alarm with Remote Start
Re: HELP with my timing belt install [Re: Juancho] #814873 05/29/07 06:10 PM
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off-roader Offline
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Where is the crank sensor? I can check that also.


I'm not 100% sure but IIRC it's in your distributor.


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98 Montero with the Winter Package
89 Montero minty clean and reserved for overlanding trips or Cars and Coffee events
96SR (3.15:1 xcase, 35's) gone to the rust gods
96SR Build Up Thread
Old web page
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Re: HELP with my timing belt install [Re: off-roader] #814874 05/29/07 08:09 PM
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Juancho Offline OP
Wheeler
Checked the sensor and it's connected. I do have a spark on #1. I have taken everything off again down to the belt. I am checking everything again to make sure I didn't miss anything. I'll check back here if there are any more ideas.


98 Montero Sport LS with Off Road Package (ext. tire mount, factory locking diff)
Yokohama Geolander AT+II 31x10.5x15
Superwinch Manual Hubs
Kenwood head unit and Music Keg
Sirius Radio
Garmin Zumo 550 GPS
Black Widow Alarm with Remote Start
Re: HELP with my timing belt install [Re: Juancho] #814875 05/31/07 08:15 PM
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fasteddy Offline
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Check the firing order. The cap outer wire tits do NOT match up with the rotor spark tits inside the dizzy. Firing order is 1-2-3-4-5-6. Spark plug wires DO NOT go on in that order. If you have spark, you should have fuel, too. I think it's a timing issue. One cylinder is most forward on the engine. That's #1, with 3 & 5 on the same side. Other side is 2-4-6. Take the cap off and figure which is #1 on the INSIDE of the cap, then number the outside terminals based on the inside position and install the wires.

Next, check the tach as you crank it. Any flicker in the gauge? This also indicates you have spark. Any poots or backfires? This would indicate wrong firing order.

Check this stuff and report back, and we'll figure it out.


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Re: HELP with my timing belt install [Re: fasteddy] #814876 05/31/07 08:24 PM
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justice Offline
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If its a 98 Montero Sport, he has no distributer.


99 Gen 2.5, fixing blown head gasket
89 SWB- 33's, ARB Front locker, SR rear locker/axle, SR F brakes, winch, WST Offroad Armor all Around, 2.85 Aussie T-case Gears (SOLD)
Sold: (2) 95 SR's, 86 SWB, 90LWB, 91 LWB
-Can Change a timing belt in my sleep..
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