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Mixed Tire Sizes #815733 05/31/07 02:12 PM
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DBL_DTY97TJ Offline OP
Rock Warrior
So the G.F. ran over a razor knife blade and chunked a tire on her Cherokee. I had a P225/70 on a stock Jeep rim so used that instead of the donut. The other tires are P235/70 which is a tiney bit bigger. I assume it's safe enough around town, but how about highway? She's taking a six hour drive west in a couple of weeks. Brand new tires too. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/evil.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Mixed Tire Sizes [Re: DBL_DTY97TJ] #815734 05/31/07 02:24 PM
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BigJim Offline
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I would like it better on the front if it is not one of the new 4x4 that the axles are locked full time. It'll do ok on the rear but the spyders will think you are in a constant turn.. In the past we ran whatever we could find that didn't already have a hole in it.
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Re: Mixed Tire Sizes [Re: BigJim] #815735 05/31/07 03:14 PM
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DBL_DTY97TJ Offline OP
Rock Warrior
It's an '01 with the part time NP231 T-case. No hubs to lock so the axle has to be engaged all the time. It's on the rear now, any advantage to having it on the front w/ the axles engaged?


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Re: Mixed Tire Sizes [Re: DBL_DTY97TJ] #815736 05/31/07 04:39 PM
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BigJim Offline
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I'd leave it on the back..
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Re: Mixed Tire Sizes [Re: DBL_DTY97TJ] #815737 06/09/07 03:24 PM
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cjensen Offline
Mudrunner
I would goto Wally World and buy a new tire before the 6 hrs. of driving.

C.

Re: Mixed Tire Sizes [Re: cjensen] #815738 06/09/07 08:52 PM
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fred1980 Offline
Mudrunner
Both tires are pretty close in size 235/70/15 = 28" tire and the 225/70/15 = 27.5" tire, IF this is temporary just let some air out of the bigger tire, say maybe around 5 psi, to get it around the same size as the others <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />.

Fred R.


97 ZJ, 5" Long Arm Lift, Beadlocked 35's, 231/D300 Doubler, Locked Front & Rear (Narrowed HP D44 & F8.8), ARB Bull Bar & 9K winch, 1-Ton Hydro-assist steering, "Custom" body work and some other goodies... PICS
Re: Mixed Tire Sizes [Re: fred1980] #815739 06/09/07 09:56 PM
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BigJim Offline
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FRED! letting air out does NOT change the circumference...
Dia is used to acertain the circunference.. NOT height! We use height commonly but it don't mean a thing. Regardless of how much air is in the tire it will still roll 28" and the other one will roll 27.5".
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Re: Mixed Tire Sizes [Re: fred1980] #815740 06/10/07 12:26 AM
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hlhneast Offline
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Yeah and remember a few years back about the Explorer/ Firestone fiasco. Firestone had its own PSI higher than the Explorer recommended and the lower pressure made the vehicle tire heat up and separate. If she is traveling 6 hours and has any load in the back, her chances are increased to have problems if you reduce the tire pressure. Keep with the recommended air pressure on the tire and buy a matching tire as soon as possible. My .02. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/notooth.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Mixed Tire Sizes [Re: BigJim] #815741 06/10/07 02:27 AM
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fred1980 Offline
Mudrunner
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FRED! letting air out does NOT change the circumference...
Dia is used to acertain the circunference.. NOT height!


Correct me if I'm wrong but it doesn't letting air out of a tire affect the rolling radius of said tire and rolling radius is what calculates how many revolutions a tire makes in a certain distance?
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I believe that is why locker manufactures warn people NOT to run mis-matched tire pressures on an axle with a locker installed, I know if my rear tires are 5 PSI off from each other I get a-lot of clunking and popping from my locker. Changing the rolling radius of a tire with it's inflation is more prevalent on a vehicle that has a locker so I'll use that as an example. Basically a locker effectively locks both axle shafts and thus the tires so they make the same amount of revolutions going in a straigt line in a certain distance, so having mis-matched tire pressures say 30PSI and 35PSI changes the rolling radius of the tires thus causing one tire to make more revolutions than the other in the same amount of distance going in a straigt line. So with a locker that is why a driver would notice erratic behavior because the locker is releasing the "locking" operation due to the driveline bind caused by the two different rolling radius of the tires on the same axle with different tire pressures. IF this wasn't the case then that would mean a two tires of the same size, one inflated to 5PSI and the other inflated to say 40PSI would make the same amount revolutions if they both traveled the same distance <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> . So reducing the air in the larger tire 235/70 would get it closer to the rolling radius of the smaller tire 225/70. I also stated that this would be a temporary fix for this particluar person's problem, meaning that he should not to do a 600 mile trip like this...

Fred R.


97 ZJ, 5" Long Arm Lift, Beadlocked 35's, 231/D300 Doubler, Locked Front & Rear (Narrowed HP D44 & F8.8), ARB Bull Bar & 9K winch, 1-Ton Hydro-assist steering, "Custom" body work and some other goodies... PICS
Re: Mixed Tire Sizes [Re: fred1980] #815742 06/10/07 02:34 AM
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BigJim Offline
Web Wheeler
Quote
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FRED! letting air out does NOT change the circumference...
Dia is used to acertain the circunference.. NOT height!


Correct me if I'm wrong but it doesn't letting air out of a tire affect the rolling radius of said tire and rolling radius is what calculates how many revolutions a tire makes in a certain distance?
[Linked Image]
I believe that is why locker manufactures warn people NOT to run mis-matched tire pressures on an axle with a locker installed, I know if my rear tires are 5 PSI off from each other I get a-lot of clunking and popping from my locker. Changing the rolling radius of a tire with it's inflation is more prevalent on a vehicle that has a locker so I'll use that as an example. Basically a locker effectively locks both axle shafts and thus the tires so they make the same amount of revolutions going in a straigt line in a certain distance, so having mis-matched tire pressures say 30PSI and 35PSI changes the rolling radius of the tires thus causing one tire to make more revolutions than the other in the same amount of distance going in a straigt line. So with a locker that is why a driver would notice erratic behavior because the locker is releasing the "locking" operation due to the driveline bind caused by the two different rolling radius of the tires on the same axle with different tire pressures. IF this wasn't the case then that would mean a two tires of the same size, one inflated to 5PSI and the other inflated to say 40PSI would make the same amount revolutions if they both traveled the same distance <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> . So reducing the air in the larger tire 235/70 would get it closer to the rolling radius of the smaller tire 225/70. I also stated that this would be a temporary fix for this particluar person's problem, meaning that he should not to do a 600 mile trip like this...

Fred R.


I don't even need to read it Fred... The tire rolls on it's circumference.. This does not change regardless of the abount of air in the tire.. If the tire is low on air the tire radius from the axle down will be smaller than the radius from the axel UP. From the weight of the vehicle..
However the circumference don't change.
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