yea thats very true dave. definatly worth a shot. all the other gears are fine till 5th. it revs up as if in neutral. its like if you were to expand the neutral position from left and right and also to where the spot for 5th gear is. this is so hard to explain hahahaha. im pretty sure it isnt a clutch problem if thats where youre leaning towards. i guess another way to try and explain this is if i were stopped and put it in 5th and tried to go, it would just rev up like it was still in neutral. it has 30/950/15s on it. and ill look into that tranny b4 i look into a rebuild. bolts right up correct? thx again for all the help so far.