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Differential breather #820709 06/23/07 02:41 AM
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Gizzy42 Offline OP
Mudrunner
A while back someone linked to a post on another site about using an 'accordian' style breather off of a snowmobile or something to use as an axle breather. I found the post here however the post it links to is gone. Anybody happen to know the brand an part # for those? I noticed the check valve on my rear breather tube is missing, just an open tube there now and was thinking of just getting one of those.

I think I remember seeing one on Dallas' trooper buggy.


--Dave

1999 Rodeo LS 3.2 4x4 5 Speed
32x11.50-15 BFG T/A KO on US Wheel 94 series
3" Lift - Rancho 9000x
Rear No-Slip Locker
Flowmaster 50 series SUV 2.25"

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." - Dave Barry
Re: Differential breather [Re: Gizzy42] #820710 06/23/07 05:14 AM
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Richard Saylor Offline
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I'm pretty sure it was a Polaris part. Not sure on the number though.

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Had a 94 Mitsubishi Eclipse
84 Honda XL185S
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Re: Differential breather [Re: Richard Saylor] #820711 06/23/07 06:07 AM
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Gizzy42 Offline OP
Mudrunner
After looking through some online parts fisches I might have found one. Looks like Suzuki uses them too on their ATVs. The one I found is

27491-38F00 Final Bevel Gear (Rear) Breather, Case

There is a Honda and Suzuki dealer down the road from me, I'll have to stop in tomorrow and see if its the same. If it is I'll get one and post the info, if they have one in stock.


--Dave

1999 Rodeo LS 3.2 4x4 5 Speed
32x11.50-15 BFG T/A KO on US Wheel 94 series
3" Lift - Rancho 9000x
Rear No-Slip Locker
Flowmaster 50 series SUV 2.25"

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." - Dave Barry
Re: Differential breather [Re: Gizzy42] #820712 06/23/07 03:18 PM
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TrailMystic Offline
Body Damage is Cool
Will this part extend the breather up higher?
Pete


'01 Rodeo Sport, 5 Speed Softie, Indy 4X rocker bars, OME 912's, Rancho 9000X's, Superwinch hubs, custom tube bumper with Warn 9000i , Flowmaster 50, TeraLow t-case gears, ARB front & rear lockers, TrXus MT's, Sway bar disconnects
Re: Differential breather [Re: TrailMystic] #820713 06/23/07 06:33 PM
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strawmyers Offline
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Will this part extend the breather up higher?
Pete


No. It is a closed breather that sits right at the axle. Expands and contracts; but does not allow exchange of air with the outside. I haven't heard the greatest results when used on truck axle... but I have no first-hand experience with them either.


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Re: Differential breather [Re: strawmyers] #820714 06/23/07 08:08 PM
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TrailMystic Offline
Body Damage is Cool
Now I understand how it works. Thanks. Let us know if it works well on a truck. I already filled my diffs with water once this year.
Pete


'01 Rodeo Sport, 5 Speed Softie, Indy 4X rocker bars, OME 912's, Rancho 9000X's, Superwinch hubs, custom tube bumper with Warn 9000i , Flowmaster 50, TeraLow t-case gears, ARB front & rear lockers, TrXus MT's, Sway bar disconnects
Re: Differential breather [Re: Gizzy42] #820715 06/24/07 05:05 AM
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Ldub Offline
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A while back someone linked to a post on another site about using an 'accordian' style breather off of a snowmobile or something to use as an axle breather. I found the post here however the post it links to is gone. Anybody happen to know the brand an part # for those? I noticed the check valve on my rear breather tube is missing, just an open tube there now and was thinking of just getting one of those.

I think I remember seeing one on Dallas' trooper buggy.


You mention a check valve, which has me curious, & this is just me thinking out loud, so take it FWIW... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

Wouldn't a PCV valve on the end of the breather tube serve the same purpose? Or would it seal too tight. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />


Larry W - 99 VX s/c
3" lift w/trimming & BFH mods, rollin' on 33/12.50x20" Nitto Mud Graps. Indy 4x h-d tie rods, lower links & a bunch of other stuff that put the hurt on the wallet.
Re: Differential breather [Re: Ldub] #820716 06/24/07 07:03 AM
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Gizzy42 Offline OP
Mudrunner
It might seal too tight, I dont really know. Would think there should be a way for air to get back in when it cools off.

Have to wait a bit before I find out how well the Suzuki one works. Local m'cycle shop didnt have any in stock so I ordered one.

I've already changed my fluid 3 times in the last month, dont feel like doing it again anytime soon because of water getting in it.


--Dave

1999 Rodeo LS 3.2 4x4 5 Speed
32x11.50-15 BFG T/A KO on US Wheel 94 series
3" Lift - Rancho 9000x
Rear No-Slip Locker
Flowmaster 50 series SUV 2.25"

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." - Dave Barry
Re: Differential breather [Re: Ldub] #820717 06/24/07 01:27 PM
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Richard Saylor Offline
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You mention a check valve, which has me curious, & this is just me thinking out loud, so take it FWIW... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

Wouldn't a PCV valve on the end of the breather tube serve the same purpose? Or would it seal too tight. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />


It's not really a check valve. On those with extended breather lines, there's a line that runs from the diff up to the underside of the body. No valves in it at all. On those that don't have the hose, there's a little plastic thing that sits on top of the fitting. All this really protects from is water splashes and maybe a brief under water excursion. But there isn't a valve there, just a plastic cap that kinda floats in place.

The problem with using something that allows air out but not in or vice versa is that the axle needs to breathe. Whenever the axles heats up, air is forced out through the breather. And whenever the axles cools down, air is sucked in through the breather. Without it, you'll have problems with blowing seals because instead of the air moving easily through the breather, it is now being forced around the seals and causes your seals to leak.

Best way to prevent water from getting in is to extended the breather lines up as high as possible. Then on the end of it, loop the lines around a few times and secure them. That way if any water does get in, it gets trapped inside the loops instead of just running down into your axles.

Richard <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" />


Had an 89 Isuzu Pickup
Had a 94 Mitsubishi Eclipse
84 Honda XL185S
Had an 89 Isuzu Trooper w/ 3.4 V6
01 Toyota Tundra SR5 V8 4Door Access Cab
http://community.webshots.com/user/rsayloriii
Re: Differential breather [Re: Richard Saylor] #820718 06/24/07 08:25 PM
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Gizzy42 Offline OP
Mudrunner
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On those with extended breather lines, there's a line that runs from the diff up to the underside of the body. No valves in it at all


There is something on the end of the line, I remember checking it a couple times to make sure it was open. Not sure if its a valve or something else to help keep stuff from just getting sucked into the tube.

BREATHER; RR AXLE CASE 8-97228-909-0


--Dave

1999 Rodeo LS 3.2 4x4 5 Speed
32x11.50-15 BFG T/A KO on US Wheel 94 series
3" Lift - Rancho 9000x
Rear No-Slip Locker
Flowmaster 50 series SUV 2.25"

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." - Dave Barry
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