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Re: is it time to replace lower plenum??? [Re: Mad_Scientist] #826786 07/28/07 02:46 PM
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I think my earlier question got swamped. Should I be worried about this issue with my SOHC 3.5L <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />


Nope! All the SOHC 3.5 (97 and newer?) do not have the butterfly assembly. You're good to go!


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1992 Isuzu Pickup - Zombie Apocalypse
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Re: is it time to replace lower plenum??? [Re: 87Montero] #826787 07/28/07 04:56 PM
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About the performance question, you will probably lose a small amount of torque at the low end when the runners are removed. The butterflys are closed at lower rpms to utilize the longer runner length, which increases torque. The butterflys open at higher rpm giving the incoming air a shorter, more direct path into the engine for better breathing and more horsepower. By removing the butterflys, you are eliminating all the intake tuning that the Mitsu engineers designed into this engine. You may not notice any power loss with your butt dyno, but the engine will be making less torque in the lower rpm range. I'd love to see someone do a before & after dyno tests to see how much power is lost and where the losses occur in the power & torque curves.


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Re: is it time to replace lower plenum??? [Re: ryany] #826788 07/28/07 05:13 PM
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A tad of torque loss is great, considering the alternative of metal ingestion.


Fasteddy's advice is occasionally sound...
Re: is it time to replace lower plenum??? [Re: hazy_daze] #826789 07/28/07 07:12 PM
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without polishing or welding the holes i noticed a slight increase in low end, and smoother acceleration. On the other hand my valves were F'ed and one was stuck in the bottom of the intake!

Re: is it time to replace lower plenum??? [Re: 87Montero] #826790 07/28/07 10:46 PM
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I think my earlier question got swamped. Should I be worried about this issue with my SOHC 3.5L <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />


Nope! All the SOHC 3.5 (97 and newer?) do not have the butterfly assembly. You're good to go!


<img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />


'97 Montero 'LSR' - 4.6 gears & factory rear locker, 33" Procomp muds on 15x8 steelies, 50mm coil spacers, T-bar crank, Airlift, sans rear sway, 50mm rear frame & fuel tank lift, Aisins, ARB front bumper + 10k lb winch, 50mm DIY body lift, rock sliders, cut rear quarter panels...
Re: is it time to replace lower plenum??? [Re: Mad_Scientist] #826791 08/13/07 06:13 AM
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cap510 Offline OP
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Just wanted to let you all know that my truck is up and running again. You might not believe me but I only used five cents to fix the lower plenum <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> That's right, a nickel <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
I been so bussy lately that I didn't have time to take the intake to get it weld. so as a last minute fix, I put some gasket material on a nickel and use some gasketing silicon and seal the outer hole... yep just like that!
I did not have the time nor was i going to I spend any more money on this intake to get it machine to be flat, the nickel was just the right size for the indentation around the whole!
I used the existing plate/braket that used to hold the butterfly valve actuator thing. I put some washers where the bolts go to level it out. I did not want that plate to get bend or become loose later. as you can see on the pics the plate is open in the middle therefore the the washers are needed.
I know it's a getto fix, but sometimes I tend to have a "whatever works" mentality! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shiner.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
Here some pics:
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Riding on 37" MTRs
Re: is it time to replace lower plenum??? [Re: cap510] #826792 08/13/07 06:13 PM
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Re: is it time to replace lower plenum??? [Re: cap510] #826793 08/13/07 07:14 PM
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That's cool <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I wonder if that a legal use of a coin? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />


'97 Montero 'LSR' - 4.6 gears & factory rear locker, 33" Procomp muds on 15x8 steelies, 50mm coil spacers, T-bar crank, Airlift, sans rear sway, 50mm rear frame & fuel tank lift, Aisins, ARB front bumper + 10k lb winch, 50mm DIY body lift, rock sliders, cut rear quarter panels...
Re: is it time to replace lower plenum??? [Re: Mad_Scientist] #826794 08/13/07 07:32 PM
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4xmonty Offline
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WOW Carlos whatever made you think of that <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/nana.gif" alt="" />
Thats a damd good idea if I say so my self. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/nana.gif" alt="" />
Russ <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" />


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Re: is it time to replace lower plenum??? [Re: 4xmonty] #826795 08/13/07 07:36 PM
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cap510 Offline OP
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WOW Carlos whatever made you think of that
Thats a damd good idea if I say so my self.
Russ

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