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Re: Another Old Iron performance Issue [Re: Oyaji_Jon] #828035 08/02/07 11:36 AM
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yankneck696 Offline
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We have Karmann Vortex type MAF's on our vehicles. THe "wire" you are seeing is just the Intake Air Sensor. Cleaning it may give a more accurate reading.

Our MAF's send a sound wave through the center that is picked up by a sensor ( similar to sonar) It reads the number of "Eddies" in your air stream.

Ed


Yankneck = Yankee ingenuity with Redneck stupidity.
"How can I break it better?"
89 Raider 3.0 w/ 31's for now
Re: Another Old Iron performance Issue [Re: yankneck696] #828036 08/02/07 01:51 PM
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Oyaji_Jon Offline
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We have Karmann Vortex type MAF's on our vehicles. THe "wire" you are seeing is just the Intake Air Sensor. Cleaning it may give a more accurate reading.

Our MAF's send a sound wave through the center that is picked up by a sensor ( similar to sonar) It reads the number of "Eddies" in your air stream.

Ed


Give a more accurate reading of what?


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-Jon
KJ6GVM

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1974 FJ40
1987 FJ60
Re: Another Old Iron performance Issue [Re: Oyaji_Jon] #828037 08/02/07 02:33 PM
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Tag Offline
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So how do we clean it.


89 2dr 3.0 AT, manual hubs. 33x12.5 MT
gen 2 coils,Cranked front tbars
Dons rocker protection, Front/Rear Bumpers. ARB rear locker, 2" BL, Beefed up skid plates/trailing arms. Gen II uca, 2 Bouncy seats www.youtube.com/TagGeorge
Re: Another Old Iron performance Issue [Re: Tag] #828038 08/02/07 02:46 PM
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Fasteddy's advice is occasionally sound...
Re: Another Old Iron performance Issue [Re: hazy_daze] #828039 08/02/07 03:26 PM
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sparkem Offline
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<img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> These trucks are from Japan.


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Re: Another Old Iron performance Issue [Re: sparkem] #828040 08/02/07 03:49 PM
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yankneck696 Offline
Mudrunner
More accurate intake air temperature reading......

Ed


Yankneck = Yankee ingenuity with Redneck stupidity.
"How can I break it better?"
89 Raider 3.0 w/ 31's for now
Re: Another Old Iron performance Issue [Re: Tag] #828041 08/02/07 04:06 PM
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CRC makes a product called Mass Air Flow Sensor Cleaner, p/n 05110, $6 +/- a can.
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Fasteddy's advice is occasionally sound...
Re: Another Old Iron performance Issue [Re: Lloyd Swartz] #828042 08/02/07 04:09 PM
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'ol trigger Offline
Wheeler
Lloyd,
How high was your cold idle speed? My truck has a cold idle speed of about 1,800 rpm. It's a smooth progression over a time period of 1-2 minutes (depending on ambient air temp)down to warm idle speed of 700 +/- rpm. Replaced the ISC and that did not change anything.
Thanks,
Jim
'89 two door v6 auto

Re: Another Old Iron performance Issue [Re: 'ol trigger] #828043 08/02/07 06:43 PM
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4xmonty Offline
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Lloyd,
How high was your cold idle speed? My truck has a cold idle speed of about 1,800 rpm. It's a smooth progression over a time period of 1-2 minutes (depending on ambient air temp)down to warm idle speed of 700 +/- rpm. Replaced the ISC and that did not change anything.
Thanks,
Jim
'89 two door v6 auto

That sounds about right I think
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Happy trails to you
(1)98 Montero SR RB Rock Crawlers BFG 33s Rancho 9000's OME Med coils rear
(2)95 4Runner All Pro Nerf bars BFG 32s
ARB bull bar
Downey 2" rear coils Downey headers
(3) 90 Montero LWB 3.0 auto
(4) 98 Kawi GPZ1100
Re: Another Old Iron performance Issue [Re: Tag] #828044 08/02/07 08:13 PM
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generation_one Offline
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So how do we clean it.


I was aware of the CNC but wanted to make sure the six dollar fix wanst a $60-$420 mistake. Is this what Ironman was talkinf about?


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Lloyd,
How high was your cold idle speed? My truck has a cold idle speed of about 1,800 rpm. It's a smooth progression over a time period of 1-2 minutes (depending on ambient air temp)down to warm idle speed of 700 +/- rpm. Replaced the ISC and that did not change anything.
Thanks,
Jim
'89 two door v6 auto


That is exactly what mine does. I dont like it either.
I am not going to mess with the ISC until I find a replacement, and have it in my hand... again, better safe than sorry.


1989 5 door montero 3.0 auto
stock original Japanese
about 200k miles






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