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Re: Montero 6G72 vs Diamante 6G72 [Re: FrankR] #828105 08/17/07 05:59 AM
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Looking forward to your reseaches.


i'm still drooling over a 93 Dia Wagon 3.0 SOHC 12 valve.
Napa lists piston rings as the same . they list monty part # for pistons on the monty but not for the Dia.
Valves are all the same numbers.

Some of the power may be from sequencial injector on Dia and the All fire at once on the "89".

Just saw a 3.0 DOHC in a dia today. Maybe it is only the DOHC that has 10/1 and the aftermarket manals are misprinted mistakes. I've even found a couple mistakes in my factory manual.


dave h.
'89 Raider V6 5spd;Aisin Hubs;; Gen2 LS: frt. brakes, rear coils;U.C.arms;R.trailing arms;idler arm; rear LSD axle w.disc brakes ;2 battery system for Dog's fan; relocated ECU; custom bumpers;J.Baker receiver;Conferr roofrack; t-bar crank.
Re: Montero 6G72 vs Diamante 6G72 [Re: FrankR] #828106 08/17/07 11:37 AM
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Hi Frank,
I have most all the FSMs here in paper from 1971 to 2003, $1600 worth of them as well as a dozen factory CD manuals. They show the 3K and the Diamante having high compression and long cams and the trucks with low compression and short cams.
But other writings such as the CAPS contradict that. I have the latest CAPs being delivered today, that will not change the old info though.


Cheers, Charlie
If It ain't broke, Modify it!
87 Montero turbo Converted back in Spring1989
95 Montero SR 3.8 DOHC Only one?
93 Pajero 3 door 6G75 Mivec with paddle shifted 5 speed
Then a Gen2 SR with full coil independent suspension.
Re: Montero 6G72 vs Diamante 6G72 [Re: FrankR] #828107 08/17/07 11:40 AM
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Hi Frank,
I have most all the FSMs here in paper from 1971 to 2003, $1600 worth of them as well as a dozen factory CD manuals. They show the 3K and the Diamante having high compression and long cams and the trucks with low compression and short cams.
But other writings such as the CAPS contradict that. I have the latest CAPs being delivered today, that will not change the old info though.
We need to verify what is actually in the engines, my schedule just got messed up so I might have a few hours off that I can open up my old wagon motor.


Cheers, Charlie
If It ain't broke, Modify it!
87 Montero turbo Converted back in Spring1989
95 Montero SR 3.8 DOHC Only one?
93 Pajero 3 door 6G75 Mivec with paddle shifted 5 speed
Then a Gen2 SR with full coil independent suspension.
Re: Montero 6G72 vs Diamante 6G72 [Re: OldColt] #828108 08/17/07 12:56 PM
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Charlie,

I "think" the information is correct on the Diamante/3000GT/Stealth 24v DOHC engines - those have 10:1 CR and identical cams. Of course, the turbo engines have the 8:1 CR pistons, but I "think" the cams may still be the same.

Where I'm confused is the 12v SOHC specs. The information I've seen so far indicates that the 12v SOHC engines in the 300GT/Stealth are the same heads and cams as the Montero/Raider - 8.9 CR. But - as you have said - the Japanese built Diamante 12v SOHC sedan engines appear to have 10:1 CR with longer duration cams..... by my calculations, 262 duration for the Diamante compared to 258 duration on the 8.9 CR engines.... with the longer duration cams opening 3* later/closing 7* later.

I've found nothing to indicate specs on the Australian built Diamante station wagon. It may be the same as the sedan, but if you try a Hollander search, the indication is that the engines are not the same as the sedans..... my question is why? - and what's different?

I may end up going to Augusta Mitsubishi for nothing next week, but this is bugging the heck outta me. Inquiring minds want to know before putting anything into the blower engine bay. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Frank


'89 [color:"white"]G-Raider[color:"white"] [color:"black"]Supercharged 3.0L, MegaSquirt 2, lockup A/T, 2.5" exhaust, 172k, Cibie H4s/Oscar SCs, Hella Micro DE fogs, Cobra CB, Superwinch hubs, LSD rear/Aussie Locker front, Bilsteins, Lifeline AGM, Rust-Oleum
Re: Montero 6G72 vs Diamante 6G72 [Re: FrankR] #828109 08/17/07 04:23 PM
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Dont know if you have seen this guys page. ...a picture of the mythical factory supercharged
http://www.robskorner.org/faqs/othermotors/othermotors.html



"In 1987 Mitsubishi went a step further with the new 6G7x motor family and introduced a V6 engine varient of the 6G71 in a supercharged flavor. This motor found it's way into the Debonair V."


Also some words about LPG that were interesting


1989 5 door montero 3.0 auto
stock original Japanese
about 200k miles






Re: Montero 6G72 vs Diamante 6G72 [Re: generation_one] #828110 08/17/07 09:46 PM
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1989 5 door montero 3.0 auto
stock original Japanese
about 200k miles






Re: Montero 6G72 vs Diamante 6G72 [Re: generation_one] #828111 08/17/07 11:37 PM
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Yup - I've seen the writeups on the blower version - but it's a 2.0L 6G71. Mine had better beat that one by a lot. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Frank


'89 [color:"white"]G-Raider[color:"white"] [color:"black"]Supercharged 3.0L, MegaSquirt 2, lockup A/T, 2.5" exhaust, 172k, Cibie H4s/Oscar SCs, Hella Micro DE fogs, Cobra CB, Superwinch hubs, LSD rear/Aussie Locker front, Bilsteins, Lifeline AGM, Rust-Oleum
Re: Montero 6G72 vs Diamante 6G72 [Re: justice] #828112 08/18/07 12:54 AM
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Still trying to figure out if the Diamante 6g72 is an interference engine. I found one site that says it is but I cant trust the info because they also have the Montero SOHC listed as interference and the 6g74 3.5 DOHC as non-interference LOL..Maybe the Mopar guys might know for sure.


Justice, here's a fella on the Diamante forum who seems to know the answer with a fair amount of certainty:

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I have a 1992 Diamante SOHC that has recently dumped on me. (Bent Valves) Otherwise, it is a perfectly good car...everything works on it minus the head. Let me explain what happened. This was my every day driver...was very good to me...I was driving home last wednesday from work and my power steering belt snapped on me. Apparently pieces of that belt somehow got into the timing cover and hit the gears, and since this is an interference engine....blam! Bent the valves.


A tale of interference engine woe

Frank


'89 [color:"white"]G-Raider[color:"white"] [color:"black"]Supercharged 3.0L, MegaSquirt 2, lockup A/T, 2.5" exhaust, 172k, Cibie H4s/Oscar SCs, Hella Micro DE fogs, Cobra CB, Superwinch hubs, LSD rear/Aussie Locker front, Bilsteins, Lifeline AGM, Rust-Oleum
Re: Montero 6G72 vs Diamante 6G72 [Re: FrankR] #828113 08/18/07 04:30 AM
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I guess that anwers that. No way for me to know if I really have that engine other than comparing the external differences that I've already noted. When I find a set of montero valve covers to switch over, I'll look at the cam codes and take a pic. I'm looking for a set of Montero valve covers. It would be nice to be able to put oil in the engine without a funnel <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />


99 Gen 2.5, fixing blown head gasket
89 SWB- 33's, ARB Front locker, SR rear locker/axle, SR F brakes, winch, WST Offroad Armor all Around, 2.85 Aussie T-case Gears (SOLD)
Sold: (2) 95 SR's, 86 SWB, 90LWB, 91 LWB
-Can Change a timing belt in my sleep..
Re: Montero 6G72 vs Diamante 6G72 [Re: justice] #828114 08/19/07 09:31 PM
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This shows the Galant and Sigma 6G72 versions to have the same cams as the Montero and other 8.9:1 CR heads:

web page

Note that it does not list cams for either the Diamante sedan or wagon - yet uses separate categories even though all info listed is the same for both - must be some difference in something somewhere.

Frank


'89 [color:"white"]G-Raider[color:"white"] [color:"black"]Supercharged 3.0L, MegaSquirt 2, lockup A/T, 2.5" exhaust, 172k, Cibie H4s/Oscar SCs, Hella Micro DE fogs, Cobra CB, Superwinch hubs, LSD rear/Aussie Locker front, Bilsteins, Lifeline AGM, Rust-Oleum
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