well hello all im back again and still my kia is in a rut. i took it to the dealer almost 2 weeks ago....and just like my mechanic that cant find the problem...they have done every test possible including changing the computer..has anyone else have this problem? both shops tell me they have never seen anything like this before, the dealer is even it the mist of trying to get a hold of kia corp, to see if there has been a problem like this before, the dealer also is suggesting taking it to a master tech. this problem is so bad that the dealer told me if the car has to leave their shop he is not charging me...now that says something