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87 raider engine change #835524 09/12/07 04:23 PM
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mkgrizzly Offline OP
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Just finished an engine swap in my 87 Raider. The engine that came out was a 2.6L 4cyl. with an automatic transmission. The engine that went in is also a 2.6L 4cyl. that came out of an 87 Mitsubishi Montero with a manual transmission. So all said and done, I have the Montero eng. hooked up to the automatic trans. in the Raider. My problem is the starter drive gear wont disengage from the driveplate when trying to start. I tested the starter, it is o.k. Also tried shimming the starter, still no success. My question to anyone out there is this; what are the measurements of the crankshaft adapter, crankshaft bushing, and adapter plates that are used in the driveplate assembly to the back of the motor? Im thinkin there is a spacing problem in that area. Any response would be appreciated, Im goin nuts here!!!

her bush buggy 87 Dodge Raider orig w/2.6l auto.trans to 2.6l auto. trans(had a man.trans hooked to it from 87 monty.) 4wd [color:"red"] [/color] <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Last edited by mkgrizzly; 09/12/07 08:52 PM.
Re: 87 raider engine change [Re: mkgrizzly] #835525 09/12/07 05:39 PM
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MontyMcV Offline
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Don't know your answers. But try searching +transmission +starter and see what you get. Most have gone from Mt to AT, and I am pretty sure the starter question has come up in that regards.

Also, edit your signature to show your ride specs. It helps others help you.

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Little Truck: 87, 2.6T I/C, MT, LSDs, Tonneau Top
Her Truck: 03, 3.8, 20th Anniv, 65k
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Re: 87 raider engine change [Re: mkgrizzly] #835526 09/12/07 06:12 PM
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OldColt Offline
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When you swapped the flywheel for the flexplate did you get all three parts installed? There is a spacer between the crank and flexplate, did it get back in there?

Did you have to pull the engine up to the trans with bolts? This part of the question is to insure the torque converter was fully engaged into the pump.


Cheers, Charlie
If It ain't broke, Modify it!
87 Montero turbo Converted back in Spring1989
95 Montero SR 3.8 DOHC Only one?
93 Pajero 3 door 6G75 Mivec with paddle shifted 5 speed
Then a Gen2 SR with full coil independent suspension.
Re: 87 raider engine change [Re: OldColt] #835527 09/12/07 10:51 PM
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mkgrizzly Offline OP
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WE think we got the flexplate and second adapter, but looks like the crankshaft bushing and first adapter are still on the back of the original motor. the chiltons shows crankshaft bushing, 1 cranksaft adapter, flexplate, then 2nd adapter plate (ENGINE FRONT TO BACK->) <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />. not 100% sure. Is the crankshaft adapter and bushing right behind of the REAR main seal,FACING THE TRANS has 6 equally spaced holes that line up with the drive plate screw holes (not on top of, linear line, about 2 in. apart)? Is this the crankshaft adapter with the crankshaft bushing in the middle?(I AM LOOKING AT THE BACK OF THE MOTOR REMOVED THAT ORIG. HAD THE AT IN IT.) <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> PLEASE ADVISE!!! [color:"red"] [/color]

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Re: 87 raider engine change [Re: mkgrizzly] #835528 09/13/07 12:42 AM
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fasteddy Offline
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IIRC, the order is crankshaft rear flange, machined 6 hole round adapter, flexplate, and a flat plate steel star washer that "may" have tabs to bend up to lock flexplate to crank bolts.


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Re: 87 raider engine change [Re: mkgrizzly] #835529 09/13/07 01:16 AM
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OldColt Offline
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Yup, it sounds like the adaptor stayed on the old engine. It is just thick enough to bring the flexplate forward to be engaged with the starter. Kinda sucks but you need to get it in there.


Cheers, Charlie
If It ain't broke, Modify it!
87 Montero turbo Converted back in Spring1989
95 Montero SR 3.8 DOHC Only one?
93 Pajero 3 door 6G75 Mivec with paddle shifted 5 speed
Then a Gen2 SR with full coil independent suspension.
Re: 87 raider engine change [Re: mkgrizzly] #835530 09/13/07 05:48 AM
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Witsubishi Offline
Getting the Wheeling Fever
You might want to ask rxinhed, he is up your way. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I believe he even has a field service manual.

Good Luck.


Bonnie - 1989 Montero LS 4-door, black, loaded, sunroof, dual bouncies, 31" BFGs
Clyde - 1989 Montero LS 4-door, black, loaded, alloys, stock
Re: 87 raider engine change [Re: Witsubishi] #835531 09/13/07 06:41 AM
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rxinhed Offline
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Mike,

I saw that my wife had posted in your thread. The FSM (Page 9-57) depicts a few different parts for the stick vs. auto. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

You're welcome to borrow the book when you get the key.

Russell <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


1987 Raider - Roxy
1988 Mighty Max 2.6L Turbo - Pearl
1997 Mountaineer V8 - Freddy
2000 Excursion V10 - Freya
Re: 87 raider engine change [Re: rxinhed] #835532 09/13/07 10:05 PM
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mkgrizzly Offline OP
Need a Spot
<img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" /> [color:"purple"] [/color] Hey thanks to all who replied to our engine change post. we will take the advice and rxinhd offer of the fsm. We will be working on that today. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
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Our Bush Buggy 87 Dodge Raider
2.6L, 4WD, AT, Midnight Blue







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