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Re: The White Whale - its big [Re: cmonty72] #835815 09/15/07 11:08 PM
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Just because you may prefer the buzz of alcohol over pot and stopped with alcohol does not make you morally on higher ground.


I think it does.

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This is the part where you say"but its ilegal" yup and so was alcohol


The key word there is "was".

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Definition - "Moral adj: relating to, dealing with, or capable of making the distinction between right and wrong in conduct.


"Legal" is always morally above "illegal".... even though both are unacceptable behavior, when "legally" drunk", the action stands above "illegally" stoned.... on a comparative moral scale.

Frank


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Re: The White Whale - its big [Re: LandRaider] #835816 09/15/07 11:17 PM
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ACTUALLY a sawed off shotgun is perfectly legal in MOST places you go.


Curtis, I don't know about MS, but here in SC, "sawed-off" is ok, so long as too much isn't "sawed-off". <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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(b) ôSawed off shotgunö means a shotgun having a barrel or barrels of less than eighteen inches in length or a weapon made from a shotgun which as modified has an overall length of less than twenty six inches or a barrel or barrels of less than eighteen inches in length.


SC Law Enforcement

So, while some might refer to "sawed-off" as a couple of inches removed, I use the term to refer to illegal modification. I guess it depends on what "is" is. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

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Re: The White Whale - its big [Re: FrankR] #835817 09/15/07 11:21 PM
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Just because you may prefer the buzz of alcohol over pot and stopped with alcohol does not make you morally on higher ground.


I think it does.

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This is the part where you say"but its ilegal" yup and so was alcohol


The key word there is "was".

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Definition - "Moral adj: relating to, dealing with, or capable of making the distinction between right and wrong in conduct.


"Legal" is always morally above "illegal".... even though both are unacceptable behavior, when "legally" drunk", the action stands above "illegally" stoned.... on a comparative moral scale. [color:"red"] UNLESS THEY ARE DRIVING![/color]

Frank
Fixed it for ya. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> Good argument. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />

Do they allow medical use in SC? I guess here in California you can get a prescription for pot if you have pain, anxiety, anorexia, a bad day, ETC. They even let you grow like 12 plants. Have you ever smoked the ganja Frank? You might be able to get a prescription for it. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

Last edited by cmonty72; 09/15/07 11:40 PM.

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Re: The White Whale - its big [Re: cmonty72] #835818 09/15/07 11:35 PM
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what I'm suggesting is that conspiracy theorists are more likely than others to take the next step toward the belief that the government is inherently evil.
The government evil? What are we in sixth grade? I'll never use "evil" while talking politics, it just sounds ignorant. How about refering to "evil doers" as " human beings that murder to get what they want". <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/evil.gif" alt="" />


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Re: The White Whale - its big [Re: FrankR] #835819 09/15/07 11:37 PM
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Thats just SC intrepretation of federal law. Go read title 2 of the 1934 National firearms act.

200 dollar tax stamp, and you've got a short barreled shotgun.

You have seen mine right? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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Re: The White Whale - its big *DELETED* [Re: LandRaider] #835820 09/15/07 11:39 PM
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Re: The White Whale - its big [Re: cmonty72] #835821 09/15/07 11:43 PM
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http://www.sled.sc.gov/SCStateGunLaws1.aspx?MenuID=CWP#2

SECTION 16-23-250. Exceptions to application of article.

The provisions of this article do not apply to the Army, Navy, or Air Force of the United States, the National Guard, and organizations authorized by law to purchase or receive machine guns, military firearms, or sawed off shotguns or sawed off rifles, from the United States or from this State and the members of these organizations. Any peace officer of the State or of a county or other political subdivision, state constable, member of the highway patrol, railway policeman or warden, superintendent, head keeper or deputy of a state prison, correction facility, workhouse, county jail, city jail, or other institution for the detention of persons convicted or accused of crime or held as witnesses in criminal cases or persons on duty in the postal service of the United States or a common carrier while transporting direct to a police department, military, or naval organization or person authorized by law to possess or use a machine gun, or sawed off shotgun, or sawed off rifle, may possess machine guns, or sawed off shotguns, or sawed off rifles, when required in the performance of their duties. The provisions of this section must not be construed to apply to machine guns, or sawed off shotguns, or sawed off rifles kept for display as relics and which are rendered harmless and not usable.
The provisions of this article do not apply to any manufacturer of machine guns or military firearms licensed pursuant to the provisions of 18 U. S. C. Section 921 et seq., any person authorized to possess these weapons by the United States Department of the Treasury, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms , or any other federal agency empowered to grant this authorization, any common or contract carrier transporting or shipping any machine gun or military firearm to or from the manufacturer if the transportation or shipment is not prohibited by federal law, or persons licensed pursuant to Section 23-31-370.


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Re: The White Whale - its big [Re: LandRaider] #835822 09/15/07 11:47 PM
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Did I mention Randy Weaver was also a combat veteran. Special Forces in Vietnam.

Now how did this guy get what he deserved??????


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Re: The White Whale - its big [Re: cmonty72] #835823 09/15/07 11:50 PM
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How about refering to "evil doers" as " human beings that murder to get what they want".


Yep, that would be evil, also.... but I have no idea where you're going with that one and not sure I even want to hear about it.... what with all of the conspiracy theories flying about.

Curtis, what I said was that "sawed-off" shotguns are illegal most places I go..... and since I live in SC, I choose to abide by local laws and see no reason to pay $200 for permission to ruin a perfectly good shotgun. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

Frank <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />


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Re: The White Whale - its big [Re: FrankR] #835824 09/15/07 11:59 PM
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Curtis, what I said was that "sawed-off" shotguns are illegal most places I go..... and since I live in SC, I choose to abide by local laws and see no reason to pay $200 for permission to ruin a perfectly good shotgun. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />
Frank <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />


Illegal, and restricted are not the same thing. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Your local laws allow for exceptions, and you should be thankful for this. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

I'll let you gusy get back to your conspiricy stuff. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Might want to loosen the tin foil up a bit guys. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />


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