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Totaly new to the idea of Toyota rigs need some info on a 4runner
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10/02/07 10:52 PM
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I have never owned a Toyota before i understand they are top notch rigs and i am a montero/raider owner but i found this deal on craiglist and its got me interest big time. i really like the look of the older 4 runners and this one i like alot. but i know nothing about them and i want to call the guy and also take a look at it. but what kind of questions should i be asking and what kind of things should i be looking for and taking a look at when i talk to him and when i test drive it check it out ? and it comes with a spare rig how much of it is swappable with the rig since there is a 2 years difference. heres the link on craiglist all feed back is welcome. 85 4 runner
95 SR stock but i hope not for long....
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Re: Totaly new to the idea of Toyota rigs need some info on a 4runner
[Re: leftnutt35]
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10/03/07 02:44 AM
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#1 On the parts rig, everything will interchange except the front end parts, as the 85 is solid axle (VERY desireable), and the 87 is IFS.
Both have the 22Rx. You'll have to see if they are carbed (22R-- has round air filter housing on top);
or EFI (22RE) You'll see the air tube and t'body on top.
If you have one of each, you can tear them down to the long block and be interchangeable. EFI is your hill climber; gravity on carb gives it trouble. Both are easy to work on; we have FSM's sticky'd over in the early Toys section. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
The W56 and G52 trannys are good swaps, with a little floor pan work for the xfer case shifters. The data plate with this info is on the engine firewall. Check our Toyota FAQ in the header above. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
Questions:
With the 33" tires, are the gears still stock (4.10), or were they bumped up to 4.88's or 4.56's. The stock gears with those tires is hard on that little ol' mill.
Being's it's getting so Kalifornicated in Idaho, ask if it has Fed or Kali emissions. I'd stay away from it if it were Kali, but that's just me. Are emissions tests current, if applicable?
Check the inner birfields for presence of grease; the felt washers and stuff blow out on these.
Make sure you have all the jack kit stuff; should be stashed in one of the cubbies in the back. Also make sure the spare tire comes down. These things need a shot of PB Blaster and antiseize once in awhile. Make sure you have a 33" spare!
Make sure fuel gauge works. The wiring gets brittle on these old gals. Luckily in the early Runners you can access the tank pump under the rear pax seat. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/notooth.gif" alt="" />
Make sure rear window goes down via front control and rear key control. This is a problem area over time too; usually dirty switches or broken wiring. Same goes for all those power windows and the sunroof. Grab a hose and leak check that sunroof too. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" />
Check the bed area and frame for rust; Toyota's downfall in these rigs.
Make sure you ask what kind of a lift is under there, and make SURE the front end isn't blocked. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/evil.gif" alt="" /> Also see if the LSPV for the brakes on the rear axle has been lowered; if not, check the front brake pads, as the front brakes will be enduring more force with the LSPV out of position to sense a load. I think 4Crawler has a writeup about it on his website. Also check the driveline to see if it's been shimmed for the geometry. There's an article on driveline basics in our Toyota Tech writeups above.
To get both of them for $2500 is awesome. If the wrecked one would still run once the core was fixed for the radiator, you could flip it.
My plugged nickels. We've got a very talent bunch here, so SEE? You don't even hafta shop for a new website! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />
Last edited by kewlynx; 10/03/07 04:02 AM.
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Re: Totaly new to the idea of Toyota rigs need some info on a 4runner
[Re: kewlynx]
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10/03/07 04:23 AM
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thanks man for all the info printing your questions out now. i called him and got a few questions answered but now i got more its EFI both of them motors good in the other one also. the one that not wrecked has high mileage but i figured that its not Kalifornicated there gears have been changed to 4.88 no spare 33 but i could get that. and now i got all kind of new info to ask him was wondering what to ask about the lift now i do. thanks man.
95 SR stock but i hope not for long....
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Re: Totaly new to the idea of Toyota rigs need some info on a 4runner
[Re: leftnutt35]
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10/03/07 04:37 AM
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Yer welcome. Nice lookin' Runner. If I hadn't had a construction project this summer, I'd be sending my uncle over to pick 'em up. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/notooth.gif" alt="" />
http://www.walkablecommunities.org/Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. **ubi apis- ibi salus**
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Re: Totaly new to the idea of Toyota rigs need some info on a 4runner
[Re: kewlynx]
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10/04/07 08:06 PM
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That grey truck looks like a beaut' I'd snatch it up.
89 4Runner 3" BL, M/T locks, 33"bfg mt, bilstein, Kayline, tubebumper, toyotafiberglass panels TBI: Elocker,3.4 w/ORS,b+b,S2Sstg2cams,arias pistons,P+P intake,TRDs/c,URDpullies+7th,downey headers,MAPECU2,WEGO WB, SupraMAF,walboro255,stg4clutch, EPaOo2 sim
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Re: Totaly new to the idea of Toyota rigs need some info on a 4runner
[Re: Greg_Canada]
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10/05/07 01:35 AM
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Go ahead; he just found out the wife is preggers again. Check OT.
http://www.walkablecommunities.org/Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. **ubi apis- ibi salus**
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Re: Totaly new to the idea of Toyota rigs need some info on a 4runner
[Re: kewlynx]
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10/05/07 03:34 AM
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Rock Warrior
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Are you psychic or something? Go ahead; he just found out the wife is preggers again. Check OT.
94 SR5 4-Runner 167000 Miles and going strong BJ Spacers, Fj80 coils, MT/R's Lock Right front and rear
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Re: Totaly new to the idea of Toyota rigs need some info on a 4runner
[Re: Victor]
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10/05/07 03:39 AM
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Only other thing that I can think of offhand is the guides on the timing chain are plastic and can break. There are aftermarket metal ones that will fix that.
94 SR5 4-Runner 167000 Miles and going strong BJ Spacers, Fj80 coils, MT/R's Lock Right front and rear
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Re: Totaly new to the idea of Toyota rigs need some info on a 4runner
[Re: leftnutt35]
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10/05/07 10:56 AM
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Rock Warrior
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I wouldn't ask any more questions and just buy it before someone else does. That a hell of a deal for both. Drop the guy $2500 and call it a day.
Be thankful I don't live closer <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />.
'86 4Runner 5" SAS '97 4Runner '05 Corolla '00 F250 PowerStroke
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Re: Totaly new to the idea of Toyota rigs need some info on a 4runner
[Re: leftnutt35]
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10/05/07 06:51 PM
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Need a Spot
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Great vehicles...I own a 90 4rnr 2 dr...interested?
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