Thank you...got nothing for sale here, just a retired old geezer who after 40+ years of Jeeps is not getting to spend quality time working on it.

Not sure when you were last at the site but I just posted the pics and write up of "Part II (same page).

Lots of folks encounter cooling issues. I live out in the desert and when I moved here from Dallas several years ago I thought I knew hot! They KNOW HOT out here. Toss in a Jeep with AC and a supercharger that is passing HOT engine oil thru the SC and back down into the pan and in from of my AC/radiator I also have a intercooler.

Albeit my Jeep NEVER overheated it did run the ragged edge of being too hot and leaving little margin for getting much hotter.

I worked to solve the problem and was able to do so using OEM parts. BUT what I could not solve was my problem with pre-detonation. And in the hottest time of the year I had pre-det at any speed above about 45. In fact I could not even drive on the freeway with 91-92 octane fuel.

What I knew was I needed a cooler air charge to the engine. Trying lots of approaches I finally solved it.

Install Chrysler LeBaron hood vents

Removed headlight trim rings

Install OEM 7 blade fan and HD clutch

This solved my heat and pre-det issues, even when hauling my M101 military trailer at highway speeds.

But I knew I had found something with getting the engine bay cooler which resulted in a normal temp running engine and a BETTER running engine...NO pre-det!

I then spent a lot of time researching various air intake systems looking for a way to get direct outside air into the intake with out the drawbacks.

The opening paragraphs of the web page 2-3 describe what I discovered. This lead to fabbing up a "box" that I could mold to fit behind the headlight bucket. I picked a "Trash can" because of its cost and mold-ability.

I now run 87 octane year round, something the SC folks will say you cannot do. Why can I? Cooler outside air down the throat of the intake system. And I have a better running Jeep to boot.

I know it works because it is about the same as the OEM system Jeep has used...ref: para 2-3 of the aforementioned webpage on "Trash Air" <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />

Had a few folks on here bothered to read those 2 very short paragraphs and look at the pics, they too would have known <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

Further reading and ref:

http://www.savagesun4x4.com/oem_7-blade_tj_fanclutch_in.html

http://www.savagesun4x4.com/jeep_cooling_electric_vs_me.html

http://www.savagesun4x4.com/hood_vents_for_tj.html

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LOL thanks for the comments.

HEY, you think that after dropping $5k on a SC I got ducats left over for anything fancy? Did you see how I raised my Jeep seats or keep my console and floorboards cooler from the heat...can you say low-buck:

http://www.savagesun4x4.com/jeep_seatriser_install.html

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I checked out the link of your writeup from the first post and quickly looked at the pictures on the right hand side to see what you had done. I then read the text to see the specifics of the installation.

I have to admit, I didn't see the supercharger until you mentioned it. I then went back and sure enough it was there. Its not the easiest thing to see unless your looking for it.

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Hey Savage, do you have an oil cooler on that rig? That would help dramatically in enigne heat reduction. Almost necesary with boost.

Don, a shill is the deceitful supportive statisfied customer during a business related swindle. Hangers-on maybe close to the word you were seeking. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/ignore.gif" alt="" /> See, I got this affinity for language ... even though I struggle with it. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />

Hey Jamie, it was not the focal point of the post and I certainly did not mention it...the focus was how do I get some cooler air into the intake. It does get hot here, it was 93 yesterday...but its a dry heat <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

No, I don't and yep, you are right on that, I have looked at them at lot and am going back and forth between installing one and going with a sealed SC unit...I'll post something in the future on this.

I go deeper into the definitions (see below). Hangers on, err maybe, how about peanut gallery?


To act as a shill.
v.tr.
1. To act as a shill for (a deceitful enterprise).
2. To lure (a person) into a swindle.

Noun 1. shill - a decoy who acts as an enthusiastic customer in order to stimulate the participation of others
decoy, steerer - a beguiler who leads someone into danger (usually as part of a plot)
Verb 1. shill - act as a shill; "The shill bid for the expensive carpet during the auction in order to drive the price up"
cozen, deceive, delude, lead on - be false to; be dishonest with [color:"blue"] [/color] <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />

all in all I enjoyed you writeups, they are interesting and imformitive. However wouldnt use a [email]K@N[/email] filter due to the oil coating,I know what that did to my regular tb,ias and so on. I would hate to see what it could do to a $5k unit. I remember from the box it did say the holes was larger to allow more air(miniscule to our eyes),but still It does allow more fine dirt and the coating to make its way in.I know arizona has pleanty of dust. I also remember that it said that the dirtier it gets the better it works. Which leaves me to wonder why use a filter that works better when dirty,than a filter that has about the same restricion in the first place.
I was thinking maybe try one of the large cone filters from a ford truck, or the cyl. shaped ones from the chevy trailblazer. that would be interesting to see a comparison on those 3 filters. As I said good write ups just something that I wouldn't do.

Just for referance reasons I been through all sorts of conditions with the jeep in VA when I lived there dry, dusty,muddy,&snow I finally trashed my [email]K@N[/email] when I moved to jersey because I got tired of removing the TB to clean it

Thank you

That is not K&N, it is some other brand as I remember. It is a K&N filter sock which I use out here in the desert due to the fine dust that gets kicked up as you drive.

But as of yesterday I have left the cone filter completely behind and gone to a Purlator in the OEM air box.

new pics and writeup: http://www.savagesun4x4.com/cold_air_fab_and_install.html

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