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Re: Cold Air Box Fab and Install [Re: Bigbird79] #843154 10/24/07 12:32 AM
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SavageSun4x4 Offline OP
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I liked the part about the color of the headlight bucket increasing the flow of air.

"TIP: Remove the headlight trim ring and paint the inside around the headlight semi-gloss black to give it a dark appearance and increase the flow of air.

So where is the Dyno Data of Before and After to back up your claims of increased power? I have never heard of a Boost/Vacuum Gauge being used to measure Horsepower.

"Update: I drove it for the first time after doing the fab/install and the Jeep seems to have a bit more power and response. I have a boost/vacuum gauge which I drive by and it certainly appeared to have a bit more power based upon the gauge on a normal trip for me."


And for the record, running in dirty conditions off road, I would be more concerned about putting Clean, dry air into the engine vs possibly perceiving the increase of a little power.

Just my 2 cents.

Sean

Who said you were promised Dyno info?

Clean dry air????? Do you see anyplace where I said I was running sans an air filter. Dry air, my air is dry, no problemo. Your 2 cents wasn't even worth that.



How can you make any real horsepower clams if you have no Data to back it up, hence the Dyno Data.

And No I donÆt see anywhere you said you would run without an air filter, but in places where it rains putting an air pick up at the front of a rig like that, with a bucket to catch the water is just going to end up with the air filter full of water. The comment about clean air had to do with the K&N I saw in the picture, and which people usually like to add to these so called cold air intakes.

Not quite sure why you have to be so derogatory when people give you feedback on your design, which if you werenÆt looking for feedback you wouldnÆt have put the design out there.

Sean

I have NEVER made any HP claims, just said it ran better based upon seat of the pants. I think I know when my Jeep runs better or not...I don't have to drop in a belch-fire V8 to figure it out.

NEVER said you could use the boost/vacuum gauge to measure HP? WTF has happen out there in Texas since I left, everybody forgot how to read and look at pics?

Feedback, you better go read the posts on here and if you call that feed back I am not a Texas boy.

You guys are just plain rude and give us real Texans a bad name...frankly I am embarrassed for this crew of folks.

Bucket to catch water, that will get into the air filter???? Where in the hell you getting this crap. Besides its far from being a sealed unit.

I hear a lot folks jumping to some wild conculsions, making claims and stating things I NEVER said either on my website or here. One guy doesn't appear to even own a Jeep <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

I am a FNG here, come on make a few posts that might be of some value and at Post #1 and every one since I have got jumped on in a derogatory fashion.

Suggest some of you get out of the peanut gallery and stop being a shill.

Comments, feedback, yep, they are more than welcome, but if you boys talk trash, better go grab some guy who has NOT spent some time in the saddle. I assure you this is not my first Jeep or first Rodeo.

Now you do not like my K&N Filter sock???? Good Friggin grief, don't know a filter sock from a filter <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />


Don
Scottsdale, AZ
www.savagesun4x4.com
Re: Cold Air Box Fab and Install [Re: SavageSun4x4] #843155 10/24/07 12:39 AM
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Wow. I donÆt know what else to say. Wish I hadnÆt wasted my time on this thread.

You need to work on your geography, not from Texas here.

Good wheeling to you.

Laters

Sean


99 XJ Sport 2 Door, 4.0L, 5 speed, all stock. Daily Driver
79 F150 Standard Cab Short Box, 400ci, NP435, NP205, 35" SSRs
Re: Cold Air Box Fab and Install [Re: SavageSun4x4] #843156 10/24/07 03:52 AM
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Fred Blackstone Offline
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SavageSun (Don):

Nobody here is being a shill, nor are they selling anything. Most we've heard from Big Jim is that he doesn't even own a Jeep, anymore! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> Nor is BJ a mechanic ... seems he's enjoying retired life building windmills, fishing from his boat, and advising old school Jeep owners on the intriquing intricacies of carburetors. Pay no attention to these seemingly refutations from these flatlanders. Most of us enjoy seeing your posts ... keep them coming. And, keep the rubberside down when your wheeling out there! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Cold Air Box Fab and Install [Re: Fred Blackstone] #843157 10/24/07 06:05 PM
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SavageSun (Don):

Nobody here is being a shill, nor are they selling anything. Most we've heard from Big Jim is that he doesn't even own a Jeep, anymore! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> Nor is BJ a mechanic ... seems he's enjoying retired life building windmills, fishing from his boat, and advising old school Jeep owners on the intriquing intricacies of carburetors. Pay no attention to these seemingly refutations from these flatlanders. Most of us enjoy seeing your posts ... keep them coming. And, keep the rubberside down when your wheeling out there! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />

THANK YOU <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" /> I appreciate it.

I too am retired and like working on my Jeep, playing with my welder and plasma gun. Little different twist on my years as a computer engineer.

I enjoy a good banter and can take a ribbing with the best, but this anger and attack stuff is for the birds IMO. I will apologize for the 2 Texas folks for their rudeness and lack of manners...guess they lack the pride I have in my home state.

Again thanks, I was pulling the plug here till I received your comments. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" />


Don
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www.savagesun4x4.com
Re: Cold Air Box Fab and Install [Re: SavageSun4x4] #843158 10/24/07 09:43 PM
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Not real sure where I was rude anywhere in my post. I actually agreed with you that a CAI does add power, just that IMO a Jeep is not the best application.

I was born here, and have lived in Texas all 25 years of my life, and love it here. I'm a little irrtitated to hear someone who does not know me say I have no pride in Texas. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" />

I just scanned the write up cause it does not apply to my Jeep. I was simply responding to what someone else had said. Not once did I attack anybody.


Gun it and run it!
1981 CJ5,258,T-176,D300,AMC 20,Dana 30,Trxus M/T 31x10.50, Rancho 5000's, GroundPounderFab front bumper, polyethylene gas tank, aluminum dash, AutoMeter gauges

What this country needs is unemployed politicians.
Re: Cold Air Box Fab and Install [Re: Brown81CJ5] #843159 10/24/07 11:35 PM
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BigJim Offline
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Well I have no intentions of apologizing! Putting an oilme filter in a garbage can open to the front of an off-road vehicle is asking for trouble and should not be exposed to the unwary... Beginners (of which Don surly is one) read these posts and expect them to be truthful.
The very best air filtering system available CAME on your Jeep. It provides more air than your Jeep can burn...Using a filter designed for a 1/4 mile asphalt track is a silly move for a dusty, dirty, wet off road vehicle..
As for being Texan...my grandfathers were here when Texas was named Mexico!
Big Jim <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Cold Air Box Fab and Install [Re: BigJim] #843160 10/25/07 01:05 AM
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SavageSun4x4 Offline OP
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Well I have no intentions of apologizing! Putting an oilme filter in a garbage can open to the front of an off-road vehicle is asking for trouble and should not be exposed to the unwary... Beginners (of which Don surly is one) read these posts and expect them to be truthful.
The very best air filtering system available CAME on your Jeep. It provides more air than your Jeep can burn...Using a filter designed for a 1/4 mile asphalt track is a silly move for a dusty, dirty, wet off road vehicle..
As for being Texan...my grandfathers were here when Texas was named Mexico!
Big Jim <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

If there is anything I don't need from you is any kind of apology. did not ask for one!

Provides more air than my Jeep can burn??? Just how do you know that? You haven't bothered to know anything about my Jeep, you neither read my write up or looked at the pics, all you did was scan and open your rude mouth.

Air filter designed for a 1/4 m track??? You have no idea what you are talking about, NONE!

What is wrong with using my "Trash can"???? Or are you so narrow minded and ego centric that you cannot think outside the box and be creative.

Wet, where is the wet???? How is the wet? gonna get inside my filter????

Wet! You clearly cannot read at all, it says under my screen name where I am from...wet, we ain't got no stinkin wet

You bet a lot of folks look at the posts on here and other forums and every post of yours I have seen only makes me think of you as a ranting and raving old man who cannot see beyond their ego of yesterday.

So you tell me in all your wisdom what is wrong with the setup...ALL you have done to this point is bad mouth.

I don't care how long you claim to have been around Texas, YOU are an embarrassment to me. I would not treat folks the way you do.

Finally you have NO idea what the post or my web page is about. When you do, let us know, but so far you have missed it <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />


Don
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www.savagesun4x4.com
Re: Cold Air Box Fab and Install [Re: Brown81CJ5] #843161 10/25/07 01:18 AM
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SavageSun4x4 Offline OP
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Not real sure where I was rude anywhere in my post. ...

I'm a little irrtitated to hear someone who does not know me say I have no pride in Texas. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" />

I just scanned the write up cause it does not apply to my Jeep. I was simply responding to what someone else had said. Not once did I attack anybody.


Read your post again.

Did NOT say you didn't have pride...Doesn't anybody read here?

LOL, YOU "scanned" my write up and started jumping me ... lets see didn't you MISS the 8 pics of my Jeep and its supercharger...course BJ still has not figured it out.

You scanned "the write up cause it does not apply to my Jeep." Then let me help you out...go back to my web page and READ, don't scan, paragraphs 2 and 3 of the opening discussion...when you, please reply back to me, I would be real interested in hearing what you have to say.

"I was simply responding to what someone else had said." That is called schilling. Stand on your own and for GAWD sake don't listen to the rantings of BJ.

I think you are most likely a good guy and just jumped on the "hate wagon" cause you saw BJ ride it into town. You are too good of man for that



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Don
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Re: Cold Air Box Fab and Install [Re: SavageSun4x4] #843162 10/25/07 03:07 AM
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hlhneast Offline
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Don, just like Fred said, try not to let it bother ya. I took some serious hard knocks when I first started posting (and still do occaisonally) but I have found that overall the folks here are good. I try very hard to not swap insults. Some of the comments here were off base and the poster had misread what you stated on your website. From what I have seen, yer not sayin yer way is the best nor is it the only way, its just the way you did it to yours. I thought yer fabbing of the CAI was neet even if I am not gonna do it to mine. It would give someone who decides he wants to mod his ride ideas on how to do his own and maybe save some bucks in the process. Face it, if someone decides to mod something, he's gonna do it no matter what others advise him to do or whether its bad for his ride or not. I do believe that having cooler air entering yer engine is better for performance. There are very few places on a Jeep that allow this to happen and any filter that is exposed is likely to suck something up your pride and joy will not digest well. IMHO Cold Air Intakes have no place off road at all for this reason. And I do actually have an open chrome air filter assembly sitting on top of my 304. But come huntin season and when I know I am goin into wet, soupy, or overly dusty environs, the stock assembly will go back on. The only way I see your Jeep getting honest cold air is with a cowl induction of some kind or maybe a snorkel. AMC-DC has done the best it could short of that. Using the headlight bucket area sans bezel as an induction port was a pretty good idea except at night with the headlight burning maybe, lol. I understand painting the area black was to help with aesthetics after removing the bezel, not to improve air flow. I would have used screamin red or sonic blue if that was the case <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> Anyway, I found your website informative and nicely done. We welcome you to the board and keep the info coming, just dont try to promote something you are selling on this forum, there is another place for that on this site. Take care! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/notooth.gif" alt="" />


77 fiberglass CJ-7 304, Ground up Resto-mod Edelbrock Air Gap, Holley 1850, Headers and Flowmasters, Black Diamond suspension, BFG 33X9.50 on Outlaw I's. Hopefully on the road this year!
Re: Cold Air Box Fab and Install [Re: hlhneast] #843163 10/25/07 05:28 AM
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jstritec Offline
Mudrunner
wow
good post
laughed my ass off
y'all need to lighten up
big jim been around a bit since maybe the hoover administration?? the roosevelt i'd bet
ya gotta live and learn, but if you're askin for opinions, ya gotta take what you get.
welcome to a free forum, these guys got experience, and i think all BJ is sayin is its a bullshit mod,
so when i drop five grand on a supercharge for the cj, maybe i'll save 50 bucks on an intake.
whoop de do
josh
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