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Re: 2001 Cherokee? [Re: Bigbird79] #847389 11/27/07 09:43 PM
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BobRowe Offline
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Gee, BigBird, it sounds like it would be just as cheap to change out the whole axle!


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Re: 2001 Cherokee? [Re: BobRowe] #847390 11/28/07 12:41 AM
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Bigbird79 Offline
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ThatÆs why I just replaced the bearing hub assemblies, and called it good, but anyway, the reverse cut Dana 30 I have in the front seems to do fine by me. I just can't believe the price of the kits, it just doesnÆt seemed priced right for what you get, but then I am not the one making the parts so who knows. It seems like if one had spare axles laying around didn't want to go through the trouble of shortening shaft, and tube, they could adapt the parts required from a 44 or an older 30 to add locking hubs if they really wanted to. But I don't know.

Sean


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Re: 2001 Cherokee? [Re: Bigbird79] #847391 12/01/07 10:24 PM
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reepersteve Offline
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I didn't read all of the posts. So don't chastise me if I am repeating info. I own a 01' Grand Cherokee Lerado and it is all wheel drive all the time. From what the book reads it transfers torch from a spinning wheel to the rest of the tires when needed. I love the way it handles in the snow. Good luck to yours if you get it.


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Re: 2001 Cherokee? [Re: reepersteve] #847392 12/02/07 12:31 AM
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Cen_Tex_KIA Offline OP
Mudrunner
Ok, now riddle me this:
I got a Haynes' book for it and it has "vacume" controls going into the axle listed in it.
The hubs definantly engage and disengage because you can feel the difference turning. Backing about 30 feet with the 4W off seems to disengage them.
Hmmmm, more research forthcoming.
Rob <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />


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Re: 2001 Cherokee? [Re: Cen_Tex_KIA] #847393 12/02/07 12:58 AM
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reepersteve Offline
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I'm reading from the owners manual, and it specifies how the Quadratec Traction Control works. Now it doesn't go as far as that but it does say that the torc from a spinning wheel goes to the remaining wheels that are not. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />


01' TJ Wangler, 6" Ruff Country X Series, 35" x 12.5" Mickey Thompsons On 15 x 10" rims w/ simi Bead Lock, Matching Warn Bumpers, 9500xi Warn Wench, Tom Woods Drive Shaft And SYE, And A K+N Cool Air Intake. Still Improving
Re: 2001 Cherokee? [Re: Cen_Tex_KIA] #847394 12/02/07 05:07 PM
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Brown81CJ5 Offline
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Ok, now riddle me this:
I got a Haynes' book for it and it has "vacume" controls going into the axle listed in it.
The hubs definantly engage and disengage because you can feel the difference turning. Backing about 30 feet with the 4W off seems to disengage them.
Hmmmm, more research forthcoming.
Rob <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />


I believe the vacuum controls you are talking about are what engage and disengage the front auto hubs.


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Re: 2001 Cherokee? [Re: Brown81CJ5] #847395 12/02/07 06:38 PM
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BigJim Offline
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Browne I am a bit hazy on all the posts in this thread but I think we are talking about all wheel drive here... I have never seen one with unlockable front end.. In fact I do not remember ever seeing one of these up close either.. so maybe these DO have an unlockable front end.
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Re: 2001 Cherokee? [Re: BigJim] #847396 12/03/07 12:27 AM
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Cen_Tex_KIA Offline OP
Mudrunner
Hmmm, so it does have auto hubs, the vacume comtroll engages and disengages, according to the shop manual.
I still don't understand why I have to back up to disengage them.......but it seems I do. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shiner.gif" alt="" />


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Re: 2001 Cherokee? [Re: Cen_Tex_KIA] #847397 12/03/07 12:30 AM
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Cen_Tex_KIA Offline OP
Mudrunner
The Grand Cherokee has a totally different t-case (all wheel drive).....where the "Cheep Cherokee" has the same t-case's optioned in the Wrangler.....plus the "part time" 4wd locking differential option.
The part-time diff is just to keep it from binding on dry pave.

Last edited by Cen_Tex_KIA; 12/03/07 12:31 AM.

2000 KIA Sportage 4x4, Sadly Smushed! Now a 2001 Cheep Jerokee. 3" Rough Country Lift, 255/70/16 General AT2's
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2292811
Re: 2001 Cherokee? [Re: Cen_Tex_KIA] #847398 12/03/07 01:08 AM
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Fred Blackstone Offline
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KIA, you've got it all wrong! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> That's okay, though. I'm glad you wrote this before binding the NP242 t-case (if, indeed, that is what you have in your Cherokee).

"The Grand Cherokee has a totally different t-case (all wheel drive).....where the "Cheep Cherokee" has the same t-case's optioned in the Wrangler.....plus the "part time" 4wd locking differential option.
The part-time diff is just to keep it from binding on dry pave."

Part time four wheel drive can only be used in applications where the wheels will slip , such as: dirt roads, wet slippery roads, etc. Wranglers, as far as I know, do not come equipped with NP242 transfer cases. Wranglers (and some Cherokees), however, do come equipped with the NP231 t-case. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />


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