Put in the battery warmer - then I had lots better cranking so would only take about 2 attempts to start. Found a good mechanic & had the block heater put in - he went in from the top & took 4 hours -including pressure testing the coolant system after the install to ensure the heater o-ring worked OK. After a couple hours heating it now starts in -15 weather like on a Vancouver summer day <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />(when & where I bought it!)