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Re: How's everyone doing in the cold snap?
[Re: spence121]
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02/04/08 07:08 PM
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hahaha yea my truck didn't start either...I don't have a block heater or nothing, just had an oil pan heater which does nothing for warming the block...just keeps the oil a bit thinner. I am looking at a circulating heater in the heater hose...eventually I will have all of the goodies...block heater, circulating heater, oil pan heater, battery warmers...there will be no reason for that sucker to not start.
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Re: How's everyone doing in the cold snap?
[Re: torquemonster]
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02/04/08 08:08 PM
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...there will be no reason for that sucker to not start. Unless you work where they cycle the power 15 minutes on - 45 minutes off like I do. (How useless is that?) Barely got her going last week there.
1991 Mitsubishi Pajero XP TD LWB family hauler.
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Re: How's everyone doing in the cold snap?
[Re: redbull]
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02/05/08 04:50 AM
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thats just stupid!!!! I would put up a stink about that....my work cycles one hour on....half our off. so thats enough to keep everybodys car somewhat warm.
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Re: How's everyone doing in the cold snap?
[Re: torquemonster]
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02/05/08 06:08 AM
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Joined: Dec 2006
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Just get more stuff pluged in at once so it makes up the difference <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />
1991 MITSUBISHI PAJERO EXCEED
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Re: How's everyone doing in the cold snap?
[Re: DonM]
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02/05/08 10:47 PM
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Joined: Apr 2007
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Yup I give in..Block heater for next winter unless I decide to sell her and upgrade to the 2.8 which is available in August. I think I will probably hold off a year though.
I don't have the time or the budget or a garage for that matter to install a block heater...Especially in the winter.
Maybe when it is warm and I have no use for it lol.
"WE ARE ALL A PRODUCT OF OUR OWN DECISIONS"
92 Mitsubishi Pajero XR 2.5 TD (SOLD and feeling lost without it) OME Suspension American Racing steel Wheels with Dick Cepek FCII Tires
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Re: How's everyone doing in the cold snap?
[Re: spence121]
#849518
02/05/08 11:29 PM
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Joined: Apr 2006
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Getting a garage to install my heater cost 1.5 hours labour.
1991 Mitsubishi Pajero XP TD LWB family hauler.
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Re: How's everyone doing in the cold snap?
[Re: spence121]
#849519
02/06/08 02:24 AM
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Joined: Jan 2005
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unless I decide to sell her and upgrade to the 2.8 which is available in August. I think I will probably hold off a year though. I will never get the 2.8 pajero...parts for it will be too much of a *****...I think the small CAT excavators that used the mitsubishi engines used a similar 4M style engine though.
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Re: How's everyone doing in the cold snap?
[Re: redbull]
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02/06/08 02:26 AM
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Joined: Aug 2001
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Follow-up to my hard starting and black smoke issues:
I took my van over to CVI Auto in Richmond based on a recommendation from MardyDelica (thank you Mardy!!!). For $300 I had Butch and Edwin do the "Delica Tune". I must admit I was a little sceptical going into this. I was finding it hard to believe that the Delica Tune was going to fix my hard starting problems and black smoke issues.
The Results of the Delica Tune:
-100% improvement in starting....it started in the cold and after leaving for close to 14 hours. -100% improvement in black smoke....there is ZERO smoke even if I really giver. If you have any smoke then you have too much. -100% improvement in rattling diesel engine noise....this was a total bonus. I had no idea how loud my engine was and how quiet it could be.
Edwin showed me what he was doing and brought me out each time he found something out of whack.
Things that he found that were out of whack:
-Injection pumping was not just off but it was off by an entire tooth! How this happened is unclear. [Just a reminder to the readers of this. I had my timing checked and adjusted last week by a shop in Victoria yet the timing was very obviously done wrong or at least in a manner that was incomplete. That is all I will say in the subject other than please please check out the shop that you trust your van to. It is very possible to do irreversible damage to these if things are not done correctly. I will gladly discuss this offline with anyone who is interested.]
-Injectors required close to 20psi to spray fuel and when they did spray it was soooo bad! For the record 20 psi is waaaay too much pressure.
I can't help but think that my fuel economy is going to get better from this. It is likely impossible that it won't get measurably better.
A huge thanks to MardyDelica for putting me into contact with CVI, Mardy gets no money from CVI and he still met me there and talked to me and supported me and my van even though I didn't buy it from him. The guys at CVI really know what they are doing with these vans. Experts in the field of Delicas would be a huge understatement. Butch and Edwin are certified Mitsubishi mechanic from the Philippines and from what I can see they have skills well beyond the Delica. Race tuning and engine development should also be added to the list of their skills. CVI is a one stop shop that does everything from filter changes (at a great price) to injector cleaning with their ultra-sonic cleaner to engine replacements. These guys can do it all in one shop.
After having this tune done I now see that any and all quick fixes that I tried made little or no effect on the starting issues and black smoke. I blanked the EGR valve with no real measurable changes. I turned down the full load adjustment on the injection pump with no change to the smoke other than less power overall. I ran the best injector cleaners through the system with no improved results. I changed the glow plugs. In all I likely have spent close to $600 trying to get these two issues fixed and I hate to guess how much time I spent.
My recommendation for all Delica owners is to take their van to CVI for the Delica Tune by Butch and Edwin. This will be the best $300 that you ever spend on your van. Even if you don't have any major issues, your van will come back running as it did when it was new. You don't know how good these vans can run.
I AM NOT GETTING PAID TO SAY ANY OF THIS!
-Mark
I copied this off of the delica website. Are there any good shops in Calgary you guys have been to, that are as knowledgeable as these guys are reported to be? My Pajero even in the heated garage still smokes in the morning on startup. Not lots but a fog of smoke is coming out of the tailpipe, which deposits its soot inside the garage. It will start on its own in the cold without being plugged in down to minus 12 or so, (haven't tried any colder). I am planning on changing my timing belt in the next couple weeks so maybe that will help, if not it would be nice to know if there are any mitsu diesel guys in town that are good for a decent price.
Doug [color:"blue"] [/color] [color:"blue"] [/color]
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Re: How's everyone doing in the cold snap?
[Re: bae146]
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02/06/08 06:45 AM
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Joined: Dec 2006
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Is that in Richmond BC? Do you have a web site or phone #.
I was thinking that maybe we should get a list of the "good shops" going so we know where to bring our rigs for service. Just list the name, website (if they have one), location, and what they do.
1991 MITSUBISHI PAJERO EXCEED
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Re: How's everyone doing in the cold snap?
[Re: DonM]
#849522
02/16/08 09:50 PM
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Joined: Apr 2007
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Sounds like 300 bucks I would be willing to spend. I think My Paj runs good but was thinking about having a good diesel mechanic take a look at it. Anyone around Calgary perform services like these two guys on the coast?
Maybe a road trip is in order <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />
"WE ARE ALL A PRODUCT OF OUR OWN DECISIONS"
92 Mitsubishi Pajero XR 2.5 TD (SOLD and feeling lost without it) OME Suspension American Racing steel Wheels with Dick Cepek FCII Tires
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