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Re: sold the first one .. so this ones mine ... Trekker Build [Re: Red_Chili] #851177 05/17/08 12:38 AM
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Vanishing_Point Offline
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With a traction bar(s) blocks are just fine in the rear. Tire size also plays a big role.
Are those Marlin Crawler shock hoops? If so short or tall and do they require cutting?

Re: sold the first one .. so this ones mine ... Trekker Build [Re: Vanishing_Point] #851178 05/17/08 01:06 AM
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CJM Offline OP
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the blocks provide space for the emergency cables , and access to the caliper bolts , and adjustments .. as mentioned .. in this case , they are an asset...
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Granted, you need the room. Why not get the lift you need using springs/shackles of the proper lift? The rest of your rebuild/swap is of such high quality, it seems a shame not to.


it's not the "lift " thats the issue .. it's the space beside and under the spring .
The block allows access to the caliper bolts , and emerg. leaver , without having to remove the u-bolts , and seperate the spring and axle ..
with this set up (block) I can easly access ALL the bolts , and adjustment with NO problem ..

just imagine a rear seal leaking .. and having to drop out the whole rear end to access , sound like a good plan ?? I dont think so .


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With a traction bar(s) blocks are just fine in the rear. Tire size also plays a big role.
Are those Marlin Crawler shock hoops? If so short or tall and do they require cutting?


I am going with a "traction shock" like Rancho use to supply , not a traction bar .. I have found the shock to be much less harsh and allow just a little better "ride" .. I'm building my own , because they're no longer avaliable .

tires i'm going to run are either 33 x 12.50's or 35's x 12.50's

shock hoops are TG .. 12 " and supose to be NON cut .. they seem tall , and hit the inners .. but I dont have the cab on yet , so I dont actually know yet .


86 4x4 , fiberglass bed , 1/2 doors , hood, etc..
84 Custom 2WD 400HP supra suspension , full frame
83 Trekker SR5
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Re: sold the first one .. so this ones mine ... Trekker Build [Re: CJM] #851179 05/18/08 12:41 AM
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CJM Offline OP
Body Damage is Cool
so " buttened " up some loose ends today ..

cut 4 gussets for the front hoops , here's 1

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and welded

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also , wanted to finish up the new crossmember .. so I cut some pieces , and got er' all finished up .. I just need to do a center suport now .

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also .. brake lines ..

got the new steel lines on , and stainless lines in place , and just tacked the line supports ..

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Re: sold the first one .. so this ones mine ... Trekker Build [Re: CJM] #851180 05/23/08 01:38 AM
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CJM Offline OP
Body Damage is Cool
so trying to figure out the emergency cable and brake lines ..

first working on the emerg. cable . My final outcome .. is to have the stock cable hook up to a short extension .. heres the direction i'm going ...

I first found some 3/16 cable .. and fittings and such

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with an idea in mind , I found a bolt to cut for cable retainers .

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I drilled out the center of the bolt , and then cut it in to pieces ...

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then " V " grooved to top , an slid the cable up threw the center .. and welded

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and "loosly" hooked up !

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I checked with the GM dealer today also on the price of the return springs $50 bone each , and the secondary spring leavers .. only avaliable with the calipers .. yeah right :P so I decided to make my own ..

made a template for the bracket , and started cutting and drilling ....

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and finally an install pic ..

loose

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and clamped

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so far so good ..



smile


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Re: sold the first one .. so this ones mine ... Trekker Build [Re: CJM] #851181 05/23/08 06:49 PM
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Toyota Section Staffer
Interesting limitation to Sky's brackets. You've overcome them, but for many they would not be optimal.


-Bill
'87 4Runner w/ '96 5VZ-FE, 'Red Chili II'
'97 Taco XtraCab 3RZ-FE, 'BlackBean'
TLCA # 13257, Rising Sun 4x4 Club Land Use Coordinator
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Re: sold the first one .. so this ones mine ... Trekker Build [Re: Red_Chili] #851182 05/24/08 02:04 AM
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CJM Offline OP
Body Damage is Cool
no .. rear discs arn't for everyone ..

EXPENCIVE to make work propperly (if you can fab on your own)


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Re: sold the first one .. so this ones mine ... Trekker Build [Re: CJM] #851183 05/24/08 02:06 AM
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CJM Offline OP
Body Damage is Cool
a little worried the wheels wouldn't fit (REM sleep causes this)

so this morning I fit on my "shop tires" 8" wheels and 31's .. and clearances look good . ;D

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also .. got some of the rear brake lines hung .. but am having a problem finding the "banjo" style fittings for my calipers .. help is appreceated !!!

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Re: sold the first one .. so this ones mine ... Trekker Build [Re: CJM] #851184 05/26/08 01:19 AM
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CJM Offline OP
Body Damage is Cool
so I found the right lines !!!!

First I opened everything up .. and had a look .

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I realized my previous "hanging " of the rear line was no good , so I started with moving the rear upper hanger .

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welded , and re-bent the line .. I also added some posts for the line to bolt to ...

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so with the line now loosly fit ..

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I wanted to make the brackets fit my supports .. so I removed the crimping from the new lines , and started cutting and forming and fitting

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and now a perfect fit .. and re-crimped back onto the lines ...

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here in BC .. brake lines also must be supported with a bracket , and "C" clip ..

so I made some brackets ..

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welded and "C" clipped

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and used the "domestic ends , and a small piece of line with the original ends on it .. double flared the ends , and done .

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86 4x4 , fiberglass bed , 1/2 doors , hood, etc..
84 Custom 2WD 400HP supra suspension , full frame
83 Trekker SR5
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Re: sold the first one .. so this ones mine ... Trekker Build [Re: CJM] #851185 05/26/08 01:21 AM
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CJM Offline OP
Body Damage is Cool
small project today .. that now I can check off the list .. DONE!

Track bar was a little to short because of the lift , so I had to correct ..

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Cut the main rod out , and also cut a new main bar .. notice the diameter differance .

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all welded .. and you must be carefull to NOT burn the bushing ..

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and installed ..

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86 4x4 , fiberglass bed , 1/2 doors , hood, etc..
84 Custom 2WD 400HP supra suspension , full frame
83 Trekker SR5
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Re: sold the first one .. so this ones mine ... Trekker Build [Re: CJM] #851186 05/30/08 01:23 AM
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CJM Offline OP
Body Damage is Cool
ok .. so I know you guys arnt "keen" on the blocks ..

I ran them in my "white knight" for 12 years .. 36" swampers , ARB's front and rear , and 5:29's .. wayyyyy back in the early years .. so for this build , I'm usin em' .

anyway .. blocks work for space for the new rear calipers , and emergancy cables .

so to make the blocks work .. as on my old rig .. I built some "kicker shocks" there not as harch as a traction bar .. and still allow some movement .. but very limited , and "absorbed"

I first I cut out some brackets
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welded them to the frame , with the MOCK-UP shocks in place


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then I took the original u-bolt holder , and made some more brackets .. welded , and added some bump stops ..

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and now I have a correction for the blocks , and " 0 " loss of clearance .

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