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Re: sold the first one .. so this ones mine ... Trekker Build
[Re: Red_Chili]
#851177
05/17/08 12:38 AM
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Joined: Dec 2006
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With a traction bar(s) blocks are just fine in the rear. Tire size also plays a big role. Are those Marlin Crawler shock hoops? If so short or tall and do they require cutting?
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Re: sold the first one .. so this ones mine ... Trekker Build
[Re: Vanishing_Point]
#851178
05/17/08 01:06 AM
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Joined: Sep 2003
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the blocks provide space for the emergency cables , and access to the caliper bolts , and adjustments .. as mentioned .. in this case , they are an asset... . Granted, you need the room. Why not get the lift you need using springs/shackles of the proper lift? The rest of your rebuild/swap is of such high quality, it seems a shame not to. it's not the "lift " thats the issue .. it's the space beside and under the spring . The block allows access to the caliper bolts , and emerg. leaver , without having to remove the u-bolts , and seperate the spring and axle .. with this set up (block) I can easly access ALL the bolts , and adjustment with NO problem .. just imagine a rear seal leaking .. and having to drop out the whole rear end to access , sound like a good plan ?? I dont think so . With a traction bar(s) blocks are just fine in the rear. Tire size also plays a big role. Are those Marlin Crawler shock hoops? If so short or tall and do they require cutting? I am going with a "traction shock" like Rancho use to supply , not a traction bar .. I have found the shock to be much less harsh and allow just a little better "ride" .. I'm building my own , because they're no longer avaliable . tires i'm going to run are either 33 x 12.50's or 35's x 12.50's shock hoops are TG .. 12 " and supose to be NON cut .. they seem tall , and hit the inners .. but I dont have the cab on yet , so I dont actually know yet .
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Re: sold the first one .. so this ones mine ... Trekker Build
[Re: CJM]
#851179
05/18/08 12:41 AM
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Joined: Sep 2003
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so " buttened " up some loose ends today .. cut 4 gussets for the front hoops , here's 1 ![[Linked Image]](http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j2/bj_bumperboy/MY%20Trekker/HPIM0673.jpg) and welded ![[Linked Image]](http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j2/bj_bumperboy/MY%20Trekker/HPIM0674.jpg) also , wanted to finish up the new crossmember .. so I cut some pieces , and got er' all finished up .. I just need to do a center suport now . ![[Linked Image]](http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j2/bj_bumperboy/MY%20Trekker/HPIM0675.jpg) also .. brake lines .. got the new steel lines on , and stainless lines in place , and just tacked the line supports .. ![[Linked Image]](http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j2/bj_bumperboy/MY%20Trekker/HPIM0676.jpg) .
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Re: sold the first one .. so this ones mine ... Trekker Build
[Re: CJM]
#851180
05/23/08 01:38 AM
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Joined: Sep 2003
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so trying to figure out the emergency cable and brake lines .. first working on the emerg. cable . My final outcome .. is to have the stock cable hook up to a short extension .. heres the direction i'm going ... I first found some 3/16 cable .. and fittings and such ![[Linked Image]](http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j2/bj_bumperboy/MY%20Trekker/HPIM0681.jpg) with an idea in mind , I found a bolt to cut for cable retainers . ![[Linked Image]](http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j2/bj_bumperboy/MY%20Trekker/HPIM0682.jpg) I drilled out the center of the bolt , and then cut it in to pieces ... ![[Linked Image]](http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j2/bj_bumperboy/MY%20Trekker/HPIM0683.jpg) then " V " grooved to top , an slid the cable up threw the center .. and welded ![[Linked Image]](http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j2/bj_bumperboy/MY%20Trekker/HPIM0684.jpg) and "loosly" hooked up ! ![[Linked Image]](http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j2/bj_bumperboy/MY%20Trekker/HPIM0685.jpg) I checked with the GM dealer today also on the price of the return springs $50 bone each , and the secondary spring leavers .. only avaliable with the calipers .. yeah right :P so I decided to make my own .. made a template for the bracket , and started cutting and drilling .... ![[Linked Image]](http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j2/bj_bumperboy/MY%20Trekker/HPIM0686.jpg) and finally an install pic .. loose and clamped ![[Linked Image]](http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j2/bj_bumperboy/MY%20Trekker/HPIM0688.jpg) so far so good .. 
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Re: sold the first one .. so this ones mine ... Trekker Build
[Re: CJM]
#851181
05/23/08 06:49 PM
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Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 5,986
Toyota Section Staffer
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Interesting limitation to Sky's brackets. You've overcome them, but for many they would not be optimal.
-Bill '87 4Runner w/ '96 5VZ-FE, 'Red Chili II' '97 Taco XtraCab 3RZ-FE, 'BlackBean' TLCA # 13257, Rising Sun 4x4 Club Land Use Coordinator "He who stops being better stops being good." -Oliver Cromwell
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Re: sold the first one .. so this ones mine ... Trekker Build
[Re: Red_Chili]
#851182
05/24/08 02:04 AM
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Joined: Sep 2003
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no .. rear discs arn't for everyone ..
EXPENCIVE to make work propperly (if you can fab on your own)
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Re: sold the first one .. so this ones mine ... Trekker Build
[Re: CJM]
#851183
05/24/08 02:06 AM
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Joined: Sep 2003
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a little worried the wheels wouldn't fit (REM sleep causes this) so this morning I fit on my "shop tires" 8" wheels and 31's .. and clearances look good . ;D ![[Linked Image]](http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j2/bj_bumperboy/MY%20Trekker/HPIM0689.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j2/bj_bumperboy/MY%20Trekker/HPIM0690.jpg) also .. got some of the rear brake lines hung .. but am having a problem finding the "banjo" style fittings for my calipers .. help is appreceated !!! ![[Linked Image]](http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j2/bj_bumperboy/MY%20Trekker/HPIM0691.jpg) .
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Re: sold the first one .. so this ones mine ... Trekker Build
[Re: CJM]
#851184
05/26/08 01:19 AM
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Joined: Sep 2003
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so I found the right lines !!!! First I opened everything up .. and had a look . ![[Linked Image]](http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j2/bj_bumperboy/MY%20Trekker/HPIM0696.jpg) I realized my previous "hanging " of the rear line was no good , so I started with moving the rear upper hanger . ![[Linked Image]](http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j2/bj_bumperboy/MY%20Trekker/HPIM0697.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j2/bj_bumperboy/MY%20Trekker/HPIM0698.jpg) welded , and re-bent the line .. I also added some posts for the line to bolt to ... ![[Linked Image]](http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j2/bj_bumperboy/MY%20Trekker/HPIM0699.jpg) so with the line now loosly fit .. ![[Linked Image]](http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j2/bj_bumperboy/MY%20Trekker/HPIM0701.jpg) I wanted to make the brackets fit my supports .. so I removed the crimping from the new lines , and started cutting and forming and fitting ![[Linked Image]](http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j2/bj_bumperboy/MY%20Trekker/HPIM0702.jpg) and now a perfect fit .. and re-crimped back onto the lines ... ![[Linked Image]](http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j2/bj_bumperboy/MY%20Trekker/HPIM0703.jpg) here in BC .. brake lines also must be supported with a bracket , and "C" clip .. so I made some brackets .. ![[Linked Image]](http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j2/bj_bumperboy/MY%20Trekker/HPIM0704.jpg) welded and "C" clipped ![[Linked Image]](http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j2/bj_bumperboy/MY%20Trekker/HPIM0705.jpg) and used the "domestic ends , and a small piece of line with the original ends on it .. double flared the ends , and done . ![[Linked Image]](http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j2/bj_bumperboy/MY%20Trekker/HPIM0706.jpg) .
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Re: sold the first one .. so this ones mine ... Trekker Build
[Re: CJM]
#851185
05/26/08 01:21 AM
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Joined: Sep 2003
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small project today .. that now I can check off the list .. DONE! Track bar was a little to short because of the lift , so I had to correct .. ![[Linked Image]](http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j2/bj_bumperboy/MY%20Trekker/HPIM0707.jpg) Cut the main rod out , and also cut a new main bar .. notice the diameter differance . ![[Linked Image]](http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j2/bj_bumperboy/MY%20Trekker/HPIM0708.jpg) all welded .. and you must be carefull to NOT burn the bushing .. ![[Linked Image]](http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j2/bj_bumperboy/MY%20Trekker/HPIM0709.jpg) and installed .. ![[Linked Image]](http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j2/bj_bumperboy/MY%20Trekker/HPIM0710.jpg) .
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Re: sold the first one .. so this ones mine ... Trekker Build
[Re: CJM]
#851186
05/30/08 01:23 AM
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Joined: Sep 2003
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ok .. so I know you guys arnt "keen" on the blocks .. I ran them in my "white knight" for 12 years .. 36" swampers , ARB's front and rear , and 5:29's .. wayyyyy back in the early years .. so for this build , I'm usin em' . anyway .. blocks work for space for the new rear calipers , and emergancy cables . so to make the blocks work .. as on my old rig .. I built some "kicker shocks" there not as harch as a traction bar .. and still allow some movement .. but very limited , and "absorbed" I first I cut out some brackets ![[Linked Image]](http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j2/bj_bumperboy/MY%20Trekker/HPIM0712.jpg) welded them to the frame , with the MOCK-UP shocks in place ![[Linked Image]](http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j2/bj_bumperboy/MY%20Trekker/HPIM0713.jpg) then I took the original u-bolt holder , and made some more brackets .. welded , and added some bump stops .. ![[Linked Image]](http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j2/bj_bumperboy/MY%20Trekker/HPIM0714.jpg) and now I have a correction for the blocks , and " 0 " loss of clearance . ![[Linked Image]](http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j2/bj_bumperboy/MY%20Trekker/HPIM0715.jpg) .
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