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tailgate window motor the same as door motor? #853091 12/15/07 07:49 PM
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 15
jwheelin1 Offline OP
Need a Spot
I don't have power door windows so I can't look. I need a tailgate window motor and seem to remember hearing that it is the same as the door motors. I see "left" and "right" and "tailgate" part numbers that are all different. Is the tailgate motor the same as the right or left? I will be looking around the local yards and the more options I have the better. Thanks. Jeff

Re: tailgate window motor the same as door motor? [Re: jwheelin1] #853092 12/15/07 08:06 PM
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Greg_Canada Offline
Roll Me Over
Some dude sent me this,
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I saw your post on 4x4wire.com that you TIG welded a
tooth back on the rear tailgate motor for your 1989
Toyota 4-Runner well you can rust free motors for them
off cars like:

4-Runner rear tailgate window motor:

A)80Æs Celica/Supra
B)87-91 Camry (left or back door) Toyota #
85720-32040,NipponDenso # 062100-2410
C)passenger side door power window motor out of Camry
D)Mazda 323 or 626Æs passenger or driverÆs side window
motor two of the holes line up while the 3rd needs
filing.

some all that is needed is swapping the harness
plug


89 4Runner
3" BL, M/T locks, 33"bfg mt, bilstein, Kayline, tubebumper, toyotafiberglass panels
TBI: Elocker,3.4 w/ORS,b+b,S2Sstg2cams,arias pistons,P+P intake,TRDs/c,URDpullies+7th,downey headers,MAPECU2,WEGO WB, SupraMAF,walboro255,stg4clutch, EPaOo2 sim
Re: tailgate window motor the same as door motor? [Re: jwheelin1] #853093 12/17/07 04:19 AM
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 77
yota4runna Offline
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Got a tailgate window that won't go up and down? Run 12 volts directly to the motor to make sure it's bad, first. It's my experience that these motors are usually OK and that the problem is usually in the complex electrical interlock system. A terrific resource for checking this system is linked here:

http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTricks/RearWindow.shtml

Re: tailgate window motor the same as door motor? [Re: yota4runna] #853094 12/17/07 04:44 AM
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 15
jwheelin1 Offline OP
Need a Spot
The window has been moving very slowly for a while now and has been making horrible grinding noises. I pulled the motor and the window moves easily in the gate. Cleaned and lubed the regulator gears and tracks. Motor moves slowly and sounds horrible on the bench. Time for a new one. I guess I can't complain too much. It did last for almost 20 years. Now the fun. Finding one that I don't have to trade a kidney for. All the yards seem to want a lot for them.

Re: tailgate window motor the same as door motor? [Re: jwheelin1] #853095 12/17/07 04:53 AM
Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 12,153
4Crawler Offline
Web Wheeler
*****
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The window has been moving very slowly for a while now and has been making horrible grinding noises. I pulled the motor and the window moves easily in the gate. Cleaned and lubed the regulator gears and tracks. Motor moves slowly and sounds horrible on the bench. Time for a new one. I guess I can't complain too much. It did last for almost 20 years. Now the fun. Finding one that I don't have to trade a kidney for. All the yards seem to want a lot for them.


Don't condemn the motor, check the voltage coming out of the relay box. If the motor is not getting nearly the full battery voltage, there is something causing a voltage drop in the system and low voltage = low torque at the motor = slow operating speed. A replacement motor would work just as slow in this case.

Re: tailgate window motor the same as door motor? [Re: 4Crawler] #853096 12/17/07 06:21 PM
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 262
D-runner Offline
Mudrunner
I replace the tailgate motor a couple years ago. I used one from a Toyota car with power windows (look for Toyota cars, trucks and vans) but I canÆt remember if it was the driver or pass side. Just take the old one with you to the JY and compare. Do check the plugs because Toyota did use two different types, one that is round and one that is square (I have the round type). The one I used bolted right in but I had to reverse the two wires so that the switch worked correctly.


Adam W.
87 4Runner SR5 - 22RE w RV head & TRD Cam, LCE header, W56B-HD, 4" Stage II, 1.5" BJS, Rancho T-bars, F 5.29, R 5.29 ARB V6 FF w LC disks, 35" MT/R's

85 4Runner frame, 5" Marlin springs, 5:29 ARB HP front. Work in progress - Always!
Re: tailgate window motor the same as door motor? [Re: D-runner] #853097 12/17/07 06:41 PM
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Greg_Canada Offline
Roll Me Over
Do people even read my posts?


89 4Runner
3" BL, M/T locks, 33"bfg mt, bilstein, Kayline, tubebumper, toyotafiberglass panels
TBI: Elocker,3.4 w/ORS,b+b,S2Sstg2cams,arias pistons,P+P intake,TRDs/c,URDpullies+7th,downey headers,MAPECU2,WEGO WB, SupraMAF,walboro255,stg4clutch, EPaOo2 sim
Re: tailgate window motor the same as door motor? [Re: Greg_Canada] #853098 12/17/07 06:45 PM
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RatLabGuy Offline
Rock Warrior
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Do people even read my posts?


I don't think so <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/drunk.gif" alt="" />


With 200+ Billion electrical parts, the world most complicated machine is inside your own skull.

Question Reality.
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'89 Rnr DLX "SR4.5", 32s w/ 5.29 locked f/r blah blah
Re: tailgate window motor the same as door motor? [Re: RatLabGuy] #853099 12/17/07 08:35 PM
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 126
4
4runner4ever Offline
Wheeler
What did you post? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


Black '90 4R

SAS with LC80 coils and LC70 high pinion axle
LC80 rear axle, coils and locker
4.88 gears
2JZ-GE+turbo+intercooler


Re: tailgate window motor the same as door motor? [Re: Greg_Canada] #853100 12/17/07 11:45 PM
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 15
jwheelin1 Offline OP
Need a Spot
I found your post helpful. Thanks. I just have to make some time to get to the junkyard. The motor I have is definitlly gone. I tested it strait to a fully charged battery. It barely moves and you can actually feel it grinding internally.


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