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ECM Quit. New One doesn"t Help. What Emissions should I Test First #853136 12/15/07 10:33 PM
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guvtrooper Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
The ECM on my 89 2.8L 5 speed Trooper made a couple popping sounds, then put the truck into limp in(default) mode. I would like to know if anyone can tell me some of the different years or vehicle models I could use to replace it, if I can't find a 89. Are ECM's fixable? It didn't have any codes stored. Thanks for looking. Stan

Last edited by guvtrooper; 12/18/07 02:17 AM.
Re: ECM Quit on my 89 Trooper, What Are My Options? [Re: guvtrooper] #853137 12/16/07 01:43 AM
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Re: ECM Quit on my 89 Trooper, What Are My Options? [Re: guvtrooper] #853138 12/16/07 08:18 AM
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Trooper-san Offline
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The ECM currently in my '89 Trooper 2.8 came out of an '88-'93 (I think) Blazer Jimmie. I changed the chips from the original to the replacement to make it CA smog legal. I replaced the original because it had quit controlling the EGR, and thereby not allowing the Trooper to pass smog.

See My Photos link below for the ECMs. Caution--the link may take you to the 2.6 photos. Look around for the other albums.

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1989 Trooper, 2.6
1989 Trooper, 2.8
1992 Ford F-350, 7.3

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Re: ECM Quit on my 89 Trooper, What Are My Options? [Re: strawmyers] #853139 12/16/07 05:51 PM
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guvtrooper Offline OP
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Thanks for that answer Sean. I will do some looking. Do you or any one else know if a 2.8 with a AT would work? Seams I've read sometimes these ECM's find there own way after a little run time.


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Re: ECM Quit on my 89 Trooper, What Are My Options? [Re: Trooper-san] #853140 12/16/07 06:36 PM
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guvtrooper Offline OP
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Great pics they really help. Do you think that ecm would have just plugged in if you didn't needed CA smog stuff? Your plug-ins are 2 blue mine are blue and black. Does it matter? Thanks.


Getting old is not for sissies.
Re: ECM Quit on my 89 Trooper, What Are My Options? [Re: guvtrooper] #853141 12/17/07 04:31 AM
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Trooper-san Offline
Mudrunner
Thanks. Compliments about my pictures are always appreciated.

I'm 99% sure the Jimmie ECM would have worked quite well had I plugged it in as it was, without changing the chips. After all, the truck it came from had the same 2.8 GMC engine. I changed them only because of the California smog requirements. I don't think the color, blue vs black, matters.


1989 Trooper, 2.6
1989 Trooper, 2.8
1992 Ford F-350, 7.3

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Re: ECM Quit on my 89 Trooper, What Are My Options? [Re: guvtrooper] #853142 12/17/07 05:21 AM
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mlclark Offline
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Don't forget to try and figure out what caused the smoke to be released from the first ECU. Plugging in another may produce the same result.

Good Luck,
Michael

Re: ECM Quit on my 89 Trooper, What Are My Options? [Re: mlclark] #853143 12/17/07 05:24 AM
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Jim_Paget Offline
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As I remember it, the California ECM has one more input than the Federal one, although I can't remember for sure what it is. My FSM is at the other end of the house and I am too lazy to get out of bed to find out what that input is.


Jim Paget
88 YJ with a few changes

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Re: ECM Quit on my 89 Trooper, What Are My Options? [Re: Trooper-san] #853144 12/17/07 07:01 AM
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guvtrooper Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Oh yes, I looked in all your albums. I will start doing that. It really helps to show what you are talking about. Blazers are on my list for tomarrow, Also taking a look at chevy 350's.

Micheal I am sorry I should have discribed that sound as a clicking noise. While I have your attention. It looks like I will be doing an engine rebuild or a swap. I like the idea of the 3.4. In fact I looked at a 94 camaro with 83,000 but it was not an S. I have read every post I could find about this subject. I seams there are a lot of issues with this swap (idling, injector size, spacers, tbi etc.). Keeping in mind, when its done, I am going to give this car to my Grandson. I just want it to run right with some more power. No constant fiddling. Should I rebuild the 2.8? Or can I put in a different size engine that will basicly bolt in, except for the starter, with no issues?

I know a lot of folks have done this swap. I hope they come on board.

Thanks Jim I'm in Washington so hope that won't be an issue, but I will check for the extra pin.

As long as I have three moderaters on here I would like to say you guys do a good job. Its not easy to stay interested when you have heard it all. I wish everybody that asked a question would come back at the end with their final solution. To many times the tread just leaves us hanging. Stan

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Re: ECM Quit on my 89 Trooper, What Are My Options? [Re: guvtrooper] #853145 12/17/07 08:16 AM
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While I leave the 2.8/3.4 expertise up to EdMc and Jim, I will say that a) any effort and money you put into rebuilding the 2.8 can be easily put into putting a 3.4 into your Trooper and b) everyone I have ever met with a 3.4 swap has a hard time speaking for the smile plastered on their face.

The 3.4 swap is as close to a plug and play swap as you will probably ever see, minus a few things like drilling for the starter. But that is not a show stopper. Put the 4.3 TBI on top of it, roller rockers, a cam and exhaust and it will have plenty of power for your grandson. In fact, you may want to keep it yourself after that.

Good Luck,
Michael

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