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Re: Mobo IDE problem [Re: fire4effect] #856712 01/03/08 05:51 AM
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On the primary IDE slot set the HD to Master and the CD to slave. Change your boot priority in the bios to CD then HD. After you loaded the OS change it back to HD then CD.

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Re: Mobo IDE problem [Re: 52degrees] #856713 01/03/08 03:42 PM
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I'm sure he'll fire up his 8089 and help you sort this mess out.


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Re: Mobo IDE problem [Re: LRJ4x4] #856714 01/03/08 03:52 PM
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On the primary IDE slot set the HD to Master and the CD to slave. Change your boot priority in the bios to CD then HD. After you loaded the OS change it back to HD then CD.

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That is not what he is trying to accomplish.... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

What is he trying to do?

That was my question. He is not having driver per operating system issues.....I believe that he is trying to activate the cd drive (without) preceeding system running?

Or have I mis-understood the question?

Re: Mobo IDE problem [Re: Hydra747] #856715 01/03/08 06:45 PM
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My thought that the Primary IDE was working, so hook them both up to that one. HD master, CD slave, it's been that way since the dawn of the the CD.

My understanding is he is trying to do a fresh install because You can't just swap Mobo's and have it work unless it's an identical Mobo. Therefore he needs both the HD and CD working with the bios boot order set to CD then HD.


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Re: Mobo IDE problem [Re: LRJ4x4] #856716 01/03/08 08:15 PM
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My thought that the Primary IDE was working, so hook them both up to that one. HD master, CD slave, it's been that way since the dawn of the the CD.

My understanding is he is trying to do a fresh install because You can't just swap Mobo's and have it work unless it's an identical Mobo. Therefore he needs both the HD and CD working with the bios boot order set to CD then HD.


"He is trying to do a fresh install!"




Well, then that is another story!

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Re: Mobo IDE problem [Re: LRJ4x4] #856717 01/03/08 08:32 PM
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You can't just swap Mobo's and have it work unless it's an identical Mobo.


While you are technically correct, the easy way around that is (either in Safe Mode or before removing the old board) to switch the driver for the controller to a Standard Dual Controller. Then when you bring it up on the new board switch it back to what it detects. Most everything else will redetect and one or two items may require manual driver install. Done it many times.


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Re: Mobo IDE problem [Re: CapnCrunch] #856718 01/03/08 08:52 PM
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I had to re-register a copy of XP Pro the other day, after swapping in a different motherboard. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> I've never seen that before. When I called MS, they said that significant system changes sometimes require registering again. What a crock.

Re: Mobo IDE problem [Re: stony-man] #856719 01/03/08 10:56 PM
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Alfred,

From the hints provided, were you able to figure out how to get your system running again?

I remember when I had a similar problem installing Win 95 but that was the last time I had that problem and the solution I had to use in that instance was to install it using a floppy install CD.

After reading through the thread, I was going to suggest what Les suggested. My thinking is that perhaps the MB BIOS only looks at the primary IDE connector for a boot drive (HD or CD) so this is why you can't boot from your CD when it's on the secondary IDE connector.

Hope you get it sorted and when you do, definitely share how you resolve it.

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I had to re-register a copy of XP Pro the other day, after swapping in a different motherboard. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> I've never seen that before. When I called MS, they said that significant system changes sometimes require registering again. What a crock.


Well, not to get too far off topic but the PC world has really made it tough on Software Vendors to provide a serial number that users can use even after they've rebuild their server OS w/out providing a serial number that can be used on pretty much any PC.

The core of the problem is there is serial number associated with the motherboard that software can verify. So software makers simulate one using a combination of variables (system configuration plus Ethernet card ID, etc.). If you rebuild the system the rebuild will likely change this "calculated" serial number invalidating the software keys you originally were using.

Since Microsoft now tracks the registration numbers/keys, this is ultimately why you had to re-register your copy. The old one wouldn't work anymore because the soft s/n had changed because of your rebuild. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Re: Mobo IDE problem [Re: off-roader] #856720 01/03/08 11:28 PM
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Didn't they at first say with Vista you were limited to 3 hardware moves for on SN? I think they backed off that, right?


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Re: Mobo IDE problem [Re: LRJ4x4] #856721 01/04/08 12:28 AM
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Ok thanks guys I got it to work.

I put the HDD and CD on the Prim IDE cable. I think the Sec IDE is bad, but I haven't verified it yet.

After several tries, XP finally installed.

and that is where I'm at.

Tonight I'll verify the 2nd IDE. If it is good, I'll move the CD to it. Then I'll have to check the USB, Audio etc.
Then I'll connect to the internet and re-register this copy of XP install SP2.

This is just a 2nd/kids computer. Mostly for the internet and a place to install scavanged parts <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/drunk.gif" alt="" />

With nothing running on it, it should be pretty fast for surfing P4 2.4 w/1g ram running XP.


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