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Re: Parking question... [Re: carlover626] #857949 01/07/08 03:20 AM
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Pete_D Offline
Mudrunner
From living in snow country before we were told NEVER use the e-brake when it is extremely cold as freezing water can bind up the park brake and not allow it to release completely. You can tell when it gets that cold by whether your outer door handles are icing up or freezing themselves when you try and open the doors.
Also - my thought on parking on a mound at an angle is that the engine oil is moved to a different position than the the engine is designed to operate under (level) with the colder temperatures and longer to get the oil to move after start up you could be causing some premature wear in the upper engine/cylinder area.

Of course if the mound semi softens you might also get high centered on the belly pans trying to get back off the mounds.

Just my 2 cents worth....... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Parking question... [Re: Pete_D] #857950 01/07/08 03:33 AM
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From living in snow country before we were told NEVER use the e-brake when it is extremely cold as freezing water can bind up the park brake and not allow it to release completely.


Sounds like some dragging brakes would heat things up enough to unstick anything frozen? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />


87 Raider 4D56td v5MT1
31's..Basically Stock
Re: Parking question... [Re: Pete_D] #857951 01/07/08 06:41 AM
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jmdt Offline
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Also - my thought on parking on a mound at an angle is that the engine oil is moved to a different position than the the engine is designed to operate under (level) with the colder temperatures and longer to get the oil to move after start up you could be causing some premature wear in the upper engine/cylinder area.


I've lived in pittsburgh for 30 years and everything hereis really really hilly... my driveway is about 25 degrees and I've seen lots of others that are steeper, but I've never heard anything about parking on slopes causing accelerated engine wear. I would guess that the effect is really small if there's any effect at all.


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Of course if the mound semi softens you might also get high centered on the belly pans trying to get back off the mounds.


I parked (backed in to the space) on a mound of snow once like a dumb <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/butwiggle.gif" alt="" /> and left my back end overhanging a guard rail by a few inches. Warm front... snow melting...came out of work to find my trailer hitch resting on the guardrail <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />
Luckily it wasn't supporting hardly any of the truck's weight and I drove off without damage. A few more hours of warm weather and I might have had some real problems. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />


Jim

1994 Montero LS
Re: Parking question... [Re: LandRaider] #857952 01/07/08 07:19 AM
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Pete_D Offline
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From living in snow country before we were told NEVER use the e-brake when it is extremely cold as freezing water can bind up the park brake and not allow it to release completely.


Sounds like some dragging brakes would heat things up enough to unstick anything frozen? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />


If the cables really ice up they won't want to release even though you're turning the wheels against them. I was a servce manager in the Sierra Nevadas and that came from the manufacturers. I didn't encounter a problem but took a few phone calls from people that did & that advice stopped their concerns. If the roads are icy you don't want your brakes unpreditable. One time I came out of a pizza place and heard this cussing on the other side of my Raider. I went around to see what had happened and this guy was trying to get into his 4X4 (off brand - not a Monty or Raider). His outer door latches had frozen and he'd pulled so hard on it his feet gave way on the icy pavement and he slid 1/2 - 2/3 the way under his car with just his shoulders and upper torso showing. I yanked him up, he was angry, embarrassed, and had had a few and was still cussing when we got his door open. I've laughed about that more than a few times.

Don't want to mess with the icy stuff too much.

Another time I was on 395 in my Raider and hit black ice at about 40 MPH going in a straight line. It spun 2 or 3 times then went sideways off the road and down an enbankment about 60 feet just missing going into a deep drainage culvert by another 25 feet or so. When the Raider went off the road onto the ground it/we were spinning sideways and the change of surfaces hit the side of the tires knocking 3 of them off the rim by breaking the seal at the rim.
I got out and walked around the Raider. It had bent the mudflaps only. I put it into reverse and backed up onto the road where I took the tires off, got a ride to the nearest town - aired up my tires and put them back on - then drove very carefully back home. That one was cammed with a Weber and a few other goodies.
That truck and how it performed is almost legendary to me (including two vans hitting it in the rear, paint marks on my rear bumper - they were towed <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />)! I was always sorry I'd let it go and that's why I bought the 90 SWB. It's been in the shop for 9 months getting everything from engine, locker, to paint. It's promised this month. Next time I'll find someone a little (LOT) quicker. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/angry.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Parking question... [Re: Pete_D] #857953 01/07/08 09:04 PM
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carlover626 Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
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Don't want to mess with the icy stuff too much.

From reading your experiance, I think I'll stay off of the mounds if we are expecting some freezing temps!

Thanks for the information! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


2002 Montero Sport 3.0L LS AWD, 130K - Stock
Re: Parking question... [Re: Pete_D] #857954 01/08/08 05:23 AM
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DirtDriver Offline
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I was always sorry I'd let it go and that's why I bought the 90 SWB. It's been in the shop for 9 months getting everything from engine, locker, to paint. It's promised this month.


I'd love to see pics and a write up after you get it back, Pete!


1990 Monty LS 3.0 A/T LWB. KYB front shocks, OME rears and coils. 33x10.5 BFG Muds. 5.29, 2.85, RD110, RD46. 2 bouncys. Aisins. Monte Disco swaybar disconnects. GenII t-arms, idler arm, UCA's, V45W front brakes. 2in BL.
Re: Parking question... [Re: DirtDriver] #857955 01/08/08 07:05 AM
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Pete_D Offline
Mudrunner
Thanks; <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

Once it's up & running I'll post pics & details.


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