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Re: Holy cr@p look at the state of my frame! Pics [Re: OldColt] #864667 01/29/08 04:49 PM
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And that is a 97? I would almost think you were up north here but I have not even seen an 87 that bad. Heck if you told me that was an Izusu I would expect that. It is good you don't have state inspections down there.
Welding next to a tank is no issue. Just make sure there is a top on the tank first.


Yup, a '97. 11 years old that's all. The difference between this part of the frame and the rest is a sharp contrast. We have inspections in NC. However, I go to the place run by the State. They wouldn't have known the state of the frame. They never look under cars! Crazy really. I don't need someone to tell me my car/truck needs work, but I guess others do <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />

Looks like I'll be removing the gas tank anyway to cut the rotten part of the frame off. I might get another tank too since this one has a pretty good ding in it and the exhaust heat shield only partially attached <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shiner.gif" alt="" />

I can use any frame from '92 to '99 right?


'97 Montero 'LSR' - 4.6 gears & factory rear locker, 33" Procomp muds on 15x8 steelies, 50mm coil spacers, T-bar crank, Airlift, sans rear sway, 50mm rear frame & fuel tank lift, Aisins, ARB front bumper + 10k lb winch, 50mm DIY body lift, rock sliders, cut rear quarter panels...
Re: Holy cr@p look at the state of my frame! Pics [Re: Mad_Scientist] #864668 01/29/08 05:38 PM
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I can use any frame from '92 to '99 right?

I expect that would be true, I do not have CAPs on this computer so I can not tell for sure.
For doing the clip I would leave the front attached in its original mounting allowing for easier alignment of the new rear section. Well unless you really want to lift it but for 33s I would just do suspension lift if you wanted it up higher.


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87 Montero turbo Converted back in Spring1989
95 Montero SR 3.8 DOHC Only one?
93 Pajero 3 door 6G75 Mivec with paddle shifted 5 speed
Then a Gen2 SR with full coil independent suspension.
Re: Holy cr@p look at the state of my frame! Pics [Re: OldColt] #864669 01/29/08 05:48 PM
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I can use any frame from '92 to '99 right?

I expect that would be true, I do not have CAPs on this computer so I can not tell for sure.
For doing the clip I would leave the front attached in its original mounting allowing for easier alignment of the new rear section. Well unless you really want to lift it but for 33s I would just do suspension lift if you wanted it up higher.


This may be what you said <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> but I planned on doing to whole job on the truck. I thought about using the rear body mounts to align the rear frame clip to the rest of the frame. Is that what you mean Charlie?


'97 Montero 'LSR' - 4.6 gears & factory rear locker, 33" Procomp muds on 15x8 steelies, 50mm coil spacers, T-bar crank, Airlift, sans rear sway, 50mm rear frame & fuel tank lift, Aisins, ARB front bumper + 10k lb winch, 50mm DIY body lift, rock sliders, cut rear quarter panels...
Re: Holy cr@p look at the state of my frame! Pics [Re: Mad_Scientist] #864670 01/29/08 06:05 PM
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Correct.


Cheers, Charlie
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87 Montero turbo Converted back in Spring1989
95 Montero SR 3.8 DOHC Only one?
93 Pajero 3 door 6G75 Mivec with paddle shifted 5 speed
Then a Gen2 SR with full coil independent suspension.
Re: Holy cr@p look at the state of my frame! Pics [Re: Mad_Scientist] #864671 01/29/08 07:41 PM
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I am being completely honest with you Reuben. I got physically ill when I saw the pictures of your frame. Its like looking into the future if I don't POR15 the Monteros frame. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/barf.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/barf.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/barf.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/barf.gif" alt="" /> Ive had nightmares about seeing my Gen1s rust out <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/zombie.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Holy cr@p look at the state of my frame! Pics [Re: StockRaider] #864672 01/29/08 07:46 PM
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You can spray oil inside the frame rails to preserve them also.


Cheers, Charlie
If It ain't broke, Modify it!
87 Montero turbo Converted back in Spring1989
95 Montero SR 3.8 DOHC Only one?
93 Pajero 3 door 6G75 Mivec with paddle shifted 5 speed
Then a Gen2 SR with full coil independent suspension.
Re: Holy cr@p look at the state of my frame! Pics [Re: StockRaider] #864673 01/29/08 08:31 PM
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I am being completely honest with you Reuben. I got physically ill when I saw the pictures of your frame. Its like looking into the future if I don't POR15 the Monteros frame. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/barf.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/barf.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/barf.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/barf.gif" alt="" /> Ive had nightmares about seeing my Gen1s rust out <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/zombie.gif" alt="" />


Terrible isn't it? I can't focus at work today. We carry our kids around in that thing <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> I've got to fix it fast.

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You can spray oil inside the frame rails to preserve them also.


Right. What about welding after that?

Are Gen 1 frames different in the rear? I know of two locally. I found one Gen 2, but the guy wanted $350 and that's if I come and cut the rear end off <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/angry.gif" alt="" /> What the...? I called may be 10 yards and nothing. One place was like "a what? A Montana? Montero? Is that Suzuki?"...click. I emailed the guy who has the SR that Sparky got his locker from, so that might work out.

Otherwise I might have to re-think here and go back to the idea of fixing the existing frame. I did some reading about cap510's frame mod and it's not for me since this is a daily driver. I am going to do a 1" body lift though since that will resolve my radiator issues (long story). I was planning on jacking the body up a little away for more space when welding, so while I'm in there...


'97 Montero 'LSR' - 4.6 gears & factory rear locker, 33" Procomp muds on 15x8 steelies, 50mm coil spacers, T-bar crank, Airlift, sans rear sway, 50mm rear frame & fuel tank lift, Aisins, ARB front bumper + 10k lb winch, 50mm DIY body lift, rock sliders, cut rear quarter panels...
Re: Holy cr@p look at the state of my frame! Pics [Re: Mad_Scientist] #864674 01/30/08 12:01 AM
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This is a future I dont want to think about yet.


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Re: Holy cr@p look at the state of my frame! Pics [Re: Tag] #864675 01/30/08 12:46 AM
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Re: Holy cr@p look at the state of my frame! Pics [Re: Chris_J] #864676 01/30/08 01:29 AM
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Right and your trucks are 8 and 9 years older than mine <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />

Anyone know anything about the differences between Gen1 and Gen 2 frames? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />


'97 Montero 'LSR' - 4.6 gears & factory rear locker, 33" Procomp muds on 15x8 steelies, 50mm coil spacers, T-bar crank, Airlift, sans rear sway, 50mm rear frame & fuel tank lift, Aisins, ARB front bumper + 10k lb winch, 50mm DIY body lift, rock sliders, cut rear quarter panels...
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