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22 r-e won?t rev out in 4th and 5th...and poor milage #866094 02/02/08 04:22 PM
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huskyohilux Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Read about everybody?s milage and I?m getting a bit below your average. I get 14 mpg, part town part highway (driving economically). The worst is that my engine feels really tired...It won?t rev out in the high gears and feels really low on both effect and torque. Especially in forth and fifth gear, it won?t go faster than 70 mph<img src="/forums/images/graemlins/sleeping.gif" alt="" /> in fourth and less in fifth...won?t rev above 3000 rpm in fourth...Other that that it runs great:) I rebuilt the whole engine last summer and I've only put maybe 3000 miles on it. The truck has 5 spd manual, stock rear axle and sits on BFG A/T 31" (31" tires on 15" rims should equal the same roll diameter as stock tires on 16", right?).
I just changed the O2 sensor and fixed an exhaust leakage near that sensor as well. Feels like the combustion is a little better now with no leakage and new O2 sensor, but still no speed. New plugs, air filter and timing @ 12 dgrs with shorted connectors. Thankful for any thoughts <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />

Re: 22 r-e won?t rev out in 4th and 5th...and poor milage [Re: huskyohilux] #866095 02/02/08 04:43 PM
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the timing should be at 12* without shorting, or 5* with shorting.


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Re: 22 r-e won?t rev out in 4th and 5th...and poor milage [Re: DRTDEVL] #866096 02/02/08 04:49 PM
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huskyohilux Offline OP
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I?ll change that tomorrow...used to be 5 dgrs but set it back a bit today to maybe get some more power. But I don't think that?s the problem...I took a couple of short drives with different timings today and no notable differences.

Re: 22 r-e won?t rev out in 4th and 5th...and poor milage [Re: DRTDEVL] #866097 02/03/08 10:55 AM
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huskyohilux Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Set the timing @ 5* with connectors shorted, no difference between that and 12*...
I also made a compression test;
135-140 psi on all cylinders except 4th where I got 120 psi. It?s a bit harder to get a good reading on 4th due to lack of space but I re-did it a couple of times w/ same result. I put some oil on the piston but no increase...
Valves timed according to specifications last summer.

Re: 22 r-e won?t rev out in 4th and 5th...and poor milage [Re: huskyohilux] #866098 02/03/08 11:22 AM
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readjust the valves.
another thing, do you have a catalytic converter? It may be plugged up. Look and see if there is a good exhaust stream coming out of the pipe when the engine revs up.
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Re: 22 r-e won?t rev out in 4th and 5th...and poor milage [Re: toyrunner] #866099 02/03/08 05:44 PM
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huskyohilux Offline OP
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I'll take a look at the valves next weekend...
And the cat seems to be OK...nice flow coming out of the exhaust...but I've been thinking of fitting a pipe instead of the cat to see if there?s any difference. And just have the cat in when I do the emissions test.

Re: 22 r-e won?t rev out in 4th and 5th...and poor milage [Re: huskyohilux] #866100 02/04/08 05:58 PM
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huskyohilux Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Just put a new cat in, also took a ride w/o the cat and still no increase in power <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> Maybe a little bit better throttle respons. The old cat had 20k / 15 years on it so it didn?t hurt to get a new anyway...must be the bad compression in the 4th cylinder...will check up on that later this week.

Re: 22 r-e won?t rev out in 4th and 5th...and poor milage [Re: huskyohilux] #866101 02/04/08 06:58 PM
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I wonder why the compression is so low considering you just rebuilt it recently?

Re: 22 r-e won?t rev out in 4th and 5th...and poor milage [Re: outdoorfan] #866102 02/04/08 07:13 PM
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one can only speculate in that:) Could be that one of the valves aren?t seated properly in the head due to not enough grinding...gonna check and see if the clearance has changed, which I doubt... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Re: 22 r-e won?t rev out in 4th and 5th...and poor milage [Re: huskyohilux] #866103 02/05/08 06:03 AM
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I understand that you have lower compression in the 4'th cylinder, but I was referring to the overall low compression in all the cylinders. To my understanding these cylinders produce around 170 psi new, and even after ALOT of use they still seem to hold very well at 150 or better. That hasn't been my experience (because I don't personally have that much experiece) but that of others based upon all the reading and research on this forum and others.

I should add that my lone pickup with a 22re ('94 with 143,000 miles) still had 150-165 psi in all cylinders before my recent top-end rebuild. #4 was at 150, and all the others were 160 or better.

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