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Re: 3.15 gears still around?? [Re: icu_runnin] #870921 02/24/08 03:58 PM
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shorepig Offline
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Wow...a 48% gear reduction. I think I need these gears. Hmmm..wonder if he'll ship to the great white north.


92 Mighty Max V6 4x4 SWB
32's, torsion lift, yota lift shackles in the back, rear LSD, 4.22's
safari rack, 3" body lift

85 VW Westfalia Baja beast
1975 HONDA CB500T cafe racer
Sector 9 pintail

Re: 3.15 gears still around?? [Re: shorepig] #870922 02/24/08 04:13 PM
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MontyMcV Offline
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Don't see why he wouldn't. If there is some reason not, one of us in the lower 48 could relay them up to you.


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Little Truck: 87, 2.6T I/C, MT, LSDs, Tonneau Top
Her Truck: 03, 3.8, 20th Anniv, 65k
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Re: 3.15 gears still around?? [Re: MontyMcV] #870923 02/24/08 06:52 PM
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Chris_J Offline
Body Damage is Cool
How much the 2.85s go for shipped? Dare I ask <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />

Re: 3.15 gears still around?? [Re: Chris_J] #870924 02/24/08 08:32 PM
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icu_runnin Offline OP
Mudrunner
looks like the 231 swap would be a lot cheaper and give you the option to go with real gearing like 4:1.


92 Galant VR4 #501/1k - Turbo, All Wheel Drive with 4 wheel steering - Money eatin toy
89 Isuzu I-Mark RS sings to 7800 RPM - Daily Driver
Re: 3.15 gears still around?? [Re: icu_runnin] #870925 02/24/08 08:46 PM
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justice Offline
Roll Me Over
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Yes, but its a trade off with pro's and cons to both. The pros are that you can swap in the crawler gears and be ready to go. Cons are not as much reduction and no SYE.

On the other hand With the 231 swap you have to get new drive shafts fabricated, fabricate new shifter linkage etc. If you factor in the cost of a Slip yoke eliminator kit, custom drive shafts, and the 4 to 1 Terra low you've already exceeded the price of the aussie gear kit, but in the end can have a better product with custom shafts SYE and 4 to 1.

I'm still not sure which direction I want to go. For my SR which will probably never see a SAS I'll go with the aussie gears. With my 89 which might see a SAS one day the slip yoke in the front will eventually have to go. Scrounging for deals for 231's with the SYE already installed may be the wayt to go.


99 Gen 2.5, fixing blown head gasket
89 SWB- 33's, ARB Front locker, SR rear locker/axle, SR F brakes, winch, WST Offroad Armor all Around, 2.85 Aussie T-case Gears (SOLD)
Sold: (2) 95 SR's, 86 SWB, 90LWB, 91 LWB
-Can Change a timing belt in my sleep..
Re: 3.15 gears still around?? [Re: justice] #870926 02/25/08 12:42 AM
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justice Offline
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Used Np231: $100-200?

SYE kit: $250

Terra 4 to 1 Kit: $1120.00

Custom Drive Shafts: $250 (Conservative estimate)

Custom shift linkage: probably could be done for minimal price with Junkyard parts.

The aussie gears at 1100 arent so bad. Maybe if you just put in the 231 with the stock gearing (2.7 to 1?)and SYE, wheel it like that first it would lighten the blow on the pocket book a little. You could always add the 4 to 1 kit at a later time. The Stock 231 would give a nice reduction over stock. If you could find a used case with the SYE already installed that would be the most cost effective, still taking into account the custom driveshafts.

Just things to consider. To get to the real serious mods it int cheap.


99 Gen 2.5, fixing blown head gasket
89 SWB- 33's, ARB Front locker, SR rear locker/axle, SR F brakes, winch, WST Offroad Armor all Around, 2.85 Aussie T-case Gears (SOLD)
Sold: (2) 95 SR's, 86 SWB, 90LWB, 91 LWB
-Can Change a timing belt in my sleep..
Re: 3.15 gears still around?? [Re: justice] #870927 02/25/08 12:48 AM
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LandRaider Offline
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Custom Drive Shafts: $250 (Conservative estimate)


Local driveline shops IF you can find them will be cheaper, but this is a seriously conservative estimate. My Driveshafts are the single most expensive thing in my entire rig. They're woods, but hey... Sometimes its a good idea to go for the best. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


87 Raider 4D56td v5MT1
31's..Basically Stock
Re: 3.15 gears still around?? [Re: LandRaider] #870928 02/25/08 02:08 AM
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CapnCrunch Offline
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I had my front drive shaft shortened at a local driveline shop when I did my front diff-swap. It cost me $100.


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Re: 3.15 gears still around?? [Re: CapnCrunch] #870929 02/25/08 02:35 AM
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87Montero Offline
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I had my front drive shaft shortened at a local driveline shop when I did my front diff-swap. It cost me $100.


Is that something thats normally required with the change to a V6 Differential?


1999 Mitsu Montero - Crappy Weather
1992 Isuzu Pickup - Zombie Apocalypse
2008 Saturn Sky Redline - Nice Weather
Re: 3.15 gears still around?? [Re: 87Montero] #870930 02/25/08 02:54 AM
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CapnCrunch Offline
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I had my front drive shaft shortened at a local driveline shop when I did my front diff-swap. It cost me $100.


Is that something thats normally required with the change to a V6 Differential?


Yes, however, reportedly it varies between trucks. I don't remember who it was, but one person had to have theirs shortened by .75", another by .80". Mine had to be shortened by 1.5".

Back on topic, as I mentioned above, the 2.85 gears are quite effective and ARE real crawler gears. Whenever I'm out trailing with local Jeeps, I'm usually crawling along at the same pace as those with modified crawl-ratios. Haven't had to brake or de-clutch for any of them when I'm behind 'em. As I've said before, in light of the vast amount of performance mods I've done to my truck, I consider these gears to be the best mod among them.


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