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dana 30 locker
#871484
02/26/08 02:58 AM
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Joined: Feb 2007
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i have a 1993 xj dana 30 stock front, dana 44 ox locker rear. both with 3.55. other than ordering a new locker for the 30 what other jeep models have lockers that will interchange with my axle? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
93 xj stroked 4.2 w/4.0 head avenger supercharged 6.5" long arm 35" buckshots rubicon 44's front & rear
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Re: dana 30 locker
[Re: el_d_m]
#871485
02/26/08 03:27 AM
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Joined: Oct 2003
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I'm prolly wrong but I think the first front lockers in Jeeps are in the Rubicons.. I don't remember any front lockers before them. Big Jim <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />
professional bovine relocation specialist
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Re: dana 30 locker
[Re: el_d_m]
#871486
02/26/08 04:27 AM
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Joined: Dec 2007
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Getting the Wheeling Fever
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I have been looking into this - yes the Rubicon has a front E locker, but it is a Dana 44 (F&R)- The ones I have found for the Dana 30 are: OX, ARB for a positive on/off lock (Eaton does not yet make an E locker for the Dana 30) and if you do a google search, there are a number of part time or positraction types out there - general advice from what I hear is do NOT put a part time in the front end if this is what you are looking at.
Richard - 08 JK, 2.5" OME lift, nitrocharged shocks, Rugged Ridge front bumper with M8000 winch, JKS QDs - Olympic 221 rock sliders and rear rock crawler bumper, upper adj control arms f/r, JKS adj track bars f/r
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Re: dana 30 locker
[Re: el_d_m]
#871487
02/26/08 11:17 PM
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Joined: May 2003
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You could use the Vari-Lok locker from a WJ.
1987 SWB Pajero 2.5 TDI on 31" rubber waiting for a hip replacement and bigger shoes
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Re: dana 30 locker
[Re: el_d_m]
#871488
02/27/08 01:10 AM
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Joined: Jan 2007
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BJ is correct, WB has the best suggestions. Add Aussie Locker to that list. Never see Party Trucks locker...Maybe not done in this country. I'd do an OX or Aussie if I couldn't afford the ARB. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
97tj, Shaved Ford 9 rear, 4:10's, New 35x12.5 BFG KM2's to test!, Warn x8000i, ARB's, Quick Disco's, Hand Throttle, & it's my DD.
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Re: dana 30 locker
[Re: DBL_DTY97TJ]
#871489
02/27/08 01:34 PM
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Joined: Oct 1999
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Ox does not save money over an ARB, by the time you buy cables and controllers/ ARB and mini compressor they are within a few bucks of each other.
What is a party truck locker? What is a part time locker? ARB OX? Selectable? ARB or other selectable is the only locker for a front end. (Of course, others will argue that Aussies and Detroits work just fine in a full time front end) Sorry they don't. Even in 2x you are always spinning and racheting the locker, loading and un loading against the shafts and joints. Then in 4x it makes steering that much harder.
Beware of spending good cash on a locker for the front end when you are stuck with 3.55 gears in. The carrier split on the front is 3.73. The rear is 4.10.
Fortunately the rear 44 has "thick" gears available up to 4.88. Sooo you could go with more appropriate gearing in the rear without changing lockers....In the front however, they do NOT make a thick gear so if you chunk up for a ARB or OX for the front end to match your current rear end set up, 3.54 gears are the steepest you can run. ICK.
SD
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Re: dana 30 locker
[Re: superdawg]
#871490
02/27/08 11:21 PM
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Joined: May 2003
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other than ordering a new locker for the 30 what other jeep models have lockers that will interchange with my axle? From what I have google'd the WJ's that have QuadraDrive came with Vari-Lok lockers in both front and rear. It's not a selectable locker it's a LSD using some Gerotor thingie from the planet Omnicron 5. It's in my WJ and works like a charm and could probably be found on a scrapyard. Only drawback is that I'm not sure if they came with 3.55 gears, then you'd have to swap out the gears also for 3.73, if that's the case you'd be better off with spendig some $$$ in a ARB or OX.
1987 SWB Pajero 2.5 TDI on 31" rubber waiting for a hip replacement and bigger shoes
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Re: dana 30 locker
[Re: superdawg]
#871491
02/28/08 05:30 AM
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Joined: Dec 2007
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Getting the Wheeling Fever
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By part time I mean a positraction or LS type - not selectable...sorry for confusion. Richard <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
Richard - 08 JK, 2.5" OME lift, nitrocharged shocks, Rugged Ridge front bumper with M8000 winch, JKS QDs - Olympic 221 rock sliders and rear rock crawler bumper, upper adj control arms f/r, JKS adj track bars f/r
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Re: dana 30 locker
[Re: WB6TMV]
#871492
02/28/08 05:49 AM
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Joined: Oct 2003
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If you put a posi up there and drive it on the hiway in Corlorado in the winter time you may live to regret it! Front non selectable lockers can be a nightmare on slick hiways. Big JIm <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />
professional bovine relocation specialist
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Re: dana 30 locker
[Re: WB6TMV]
#871493
02/28/08 08:38 AM
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Joined: Sep 2005
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Richard,
As I understand it, your Jeep does NOT have manually unlocking hubs.
There are a number of us who have automatic lockers (e.g., Detroit Lockers, LockRight lockers, etc.) or limited slip differentials (LSDs such as Positraction, PowerLoc, etc.) in the front axles of our Jeeps; these Jeeps are used primarily off-road and only occasionally used on pavement, and very rarely on the freeway. HOWEVER, we only install the lockers there if we have locking front hubs that we can unlock on the street and then drive in 2WD. The ONLY time I lock the front hubs and engage 4WD on the street in my CJ7 is if there is more than 6 or 8 inches of fresh snowfall -- and then it's like driving in the snow offroad -- going slow.
If you can't disconnect your front wheels from the front differential, as with locking/unlocking hubs, then the only suitable front axle traction-aiding device (in my opinion) for your vehicle is a selectable locker (e.g., ARB Air Locker, Ox Locker, or one of the electric/magnetic selectable lockers). That way, you can de-select the locker and essentially run an open differential on the street.
1977 CJ-7, fiberglass body, AMC 360 w/ headers, DUI ignition, Edelbrock intake and Holley 4150 carb, TF999, Dana 300, 4.56 gears lockers, York air comp, 4" susp lift, 2" body lift, BFG 35" M-T tires, Megashifter, AGR pump & box, REP8000 winch.
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