Thanks for the quick reply. I went with the bias tsl's and I have regreted it everyday on the street. Great offroad, terrible on the street. I have someone who wants these tires so I am looking at a little trade off b/t on and offroad. This is why I'm leaning towards the ssr's. I have read up a lot from many different forums before I buy this time. I have had several (probably 5 sets) of tsl bias ply tires and these by far have been the worst riding. Better after they warm up, but tough getting there. Maybe I'm getting old.