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Re: 1995 Montero: Speedometer, odometer, overdrive quit all at once [Re: fasteddy] #879335 04/27/13 05:17 AM
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PanamaMike00 Offline
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On reflecton, I think there are two vss's, one on the tailshaft of the tcase front output shaft, rearward side of the case, for 4wd detection? gen 1 had one there...

Then I think there is a second one on the tcase rear output shaft, a 4pole pulse generator. It provides inputs for the speedo, odo, and TCM which controls o'd function, a likely culprit.

I just replaced the one on the drivers side of the tcase. little stubby thing that screws on had a shaft that goes into the tcase that the tcase turns. Im assuming its the four pole pulse generator you mention but unfortunately it didnt work... the mitsu electrical pdf mentions this as the vss(sub) and the vss(main) its saying is somewhere on the intake manifold. this is on page 213 of montero_fsm_1992-1995_electrical.pdf. However I cant find that on any warehouse site to buy so if it is the problem idk what to do about it. Maybe the junkyard? I pulled out my cluster as well and didnt notice anything out of the ordinary. I need do as ataki did and check for a signal at the panel but im not entirely sure on how to go about it. Ill take a second look at the cluster. I also heard something about the water temp switch??
thanks a ton for the input everyone! I was thinking seriously in just parting it out! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />


1994 Montero SR 31" BFG KM2s
Re: 1995 Montero: Speedometer, odometer, overdrive quit all at once [Re: PanamaMike00] #879336 04/27/13 05:23 PM
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Ataki Offline
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This is how I checked for a signal.
On the back of the instrument cluster, there is a 2-wire connector (C-06 on the diagrams), Somewhat L-shaped. The yellow-white wire is +5v from the computer, the blue is ground, through the VSS. I hooked my voltmeter up to the two terminals on the connector, and slowly drove forward. The reading on the meter should pulse, if the VSS and wiring is good.

Last edited by Ataki; 04/27/13 05:25 PM.

1994 Mitsubishi Montero LS, Stock (for now)
General class license -KF5UHG
Re: 1995 Montero: Speedometer, odometer, overdrive quit all at once [Re: AdamA] #879337 04/27/13 05:28 PM
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PanamaMike00 Offline
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Well there is nothing burnt out on the back of the cluster. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> Maybe its a wire.


1994 Montero SR 31" BFG KM2s
Re: 1995 Montero: Speedometer, odometer, overdrive quit all at once [Re: PanamaMike00] #879338 04/27/13 05:39 PM
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Ataki Offline
Getting the Wheeling Fever
On mine, it was on the back of the speedometer itself, I couldn't tell anything was wrong until I pulled it out of the cluster.


1994 Mitsubishi Montero LS, Stock (for now)
General class license -KF5UHG
Re: 1995 Montero: Speedometer, odometer, overdrive quit all at once [Re: Ataki] #879339 04/27/13 06:14 PM
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PanamaMike00 Offline
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Thanks a lot Ataki! just now saw your earlier post. Ok so im gonna pull out the speedo now since its already all apart. Ill let you all know what I find.
<img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


1994 Montero SR 31" BFG KM2s
Re: 1995 Montero: Speedometer, odometer, overdrive quit all at once [Re: PanamaMike00] #879340 04/27/13 06:20 PM
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Ataki Offline
Getting the Wheeling Fever
No problem, I hope it's helpful. I know my speedo was driving me nuts <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Last edited by Ataki; 04/27/13 06:21 PM.

1994 Mitsubishi Montero LS, Stock (for now)
General class license -KF5UHG
Re: 1995 Montero: Speedometer, odometer, overdrive quit all at once [Re: Ataki] #879341 04/27/13 06:54 PM
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PanamaMike00 Offline
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I know what you mean. I was going to part it out to the kind folks on here if i could not figure this out. BUT........

Turns out I have the IDENTICAL failure that you did Ataki!

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1994 Montero SR 31" BFG KM2s
Re: 1995 Montero: Speedometer, odometer, overdrive quit all at once [Re: PanamaMike00] #879342 04/27/13 07:27 PM
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Ataki Offline
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Interesting!
This must be a common issue. A speedo I pulled from the wrecking yard was burned in the same place. I wonder what could be causing so much current to flow through that little junction, that it burns up like that?


1994 Mitsubishi Montero LS, Stock (for now)
General class license -KF5UHG
Re: 1995 Montero: Speedometer, odometer, overdrive quit all at once [Re: Ataki] #879343 04/27/13 07:34 PM
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ryany Offline
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Probably the increased heat from the VSS signal when you're going more than 150mph. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />


95 Montero SR
3.8 MIVEC, Advance headers, 2 1/2" exhaust, Magnaflow muffler, OME shocks & rear springs, 2" body lift, 3" tank lift, 4.90s, TRE front locker, factory rear locker, Roger Brown Rock Sliderz, 315/75r16 (35") tires, Sport big brakes
Re: 1995 Montero: Speedometer, odometer, overdrive quit all at once [Re: ryany] #879344 04/27/13 07:36 PM
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Ataki Offline
Getting the Wheeling Fever
I suddenly feel the need to test this theory, once I get her all put back together... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


1994 Mitsubishi Montero LS, Stock (for now)
General class license -KF5UHG
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