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High flow vs. "regular" catylitic convertors
#881298
04/16/08 08:36 PM
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Joined: Apr 2008
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I've read on other boards that there's no such thing as a "high flow cat" for regularly aspirated engines, as they don't push enough air to cause restriction. What's everyone's thoughts on this, as I'm getting ready to do some exhaust mods and would rather stick with the cat I've got if there's no change.
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Re: High flow vs. "regular" catylitic convertors
[Re: qdude79]
#881299
04/16/08 09:06 PM
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Joined: Oct 2000
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Rock Warrior
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I don't know if there is enough interior area/material to interrupt flow or not. I do know that the input and output sizes are likely to be the same size as your original exhaust, so you're still running big hoses into a small hose for a little bit....
Notes: I've got an aftermarket cat. I *barely* pass emissions with it. I actually had to lean out idle and cruise just to pass.
The old cat may be worth money - more money than a new aftermarket cat...
22REturbo.net 1988 4Runner 22RTE core, turbocharged, megasquirted...
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Re: High flow vs. "regular" catylitic convertors
[Re: qdude79]
#881300
04/16/08 09:15 PM
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Joined: Apr 2002
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Roll Me Over
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I am not sure what actual difference there is between the hi-flow and regular ones as far as performance goes, however there is a difference when you look through them. New regular cats when you look through them you can see blurry light/images about the size of a dime at the other end. With my magnaflow hi-flow cat the images were clear and were about the size of a quarter. The other difference is about $50 more for the hi-flow one.
You don't want to open up the exhaust too much w/these engines, unless you are planning to operate above 4k all of the time, you need some amount of back pressure for low end torque.
More than tread lightly. Leave it like you were never there, nor anyone else. '90 X-cab 4.88's 33 BFG AT's, rr ARB, Headers, Ignition upgrade, cold air induction. '91 X-cab 5.29's 315's BFG MT's, rr ARB, custom bumper and flatbed
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Re: High flow vs. "regular" catylitic convertors
[Re: Snowtoy]
#881301
04/16/08 10:03 PM
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Joined: Jan 2000
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Web Wheeler
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What I had heard was that the high flow cat thing came up back in the early days of catalytic converters. The early ones were made of a bunch of ceramic beads. Then the newer design was the honeycomb version that flowed better since it had straight through passages. So today most cats are the honeycomb design, so are all high flow versions. I suppose there are some differences in the really high flow cats, like larger passages, larger cross sectional area of the matrix, larger bore inlets/outlets, etc. Probably makes a little difference.
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Re: High flow vs. "regular" catylitic convertors
[Re: 4Crawler]
#881302
04/17/08 12:29 AM
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Joined: Apr 2000
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Then the newer design was the honeycomb version that flowed better since it had straight through passages. So today most cats are the honeycomb design, so are all high flow versions. I suppose there are some differences in the really high flow cats, like larger passages, larger cross sectional area of the matrix, larger bore inlets/outlets, etc. Probably makes a little difference. When I was having the exhaust put on my rig a few years back the exhaust guy told me my cat was shot. I told him to put on a high flow and he told me all cats are high flow now days. Then he explained the exact thing you just posted. I asked him how long it would last and he told me not as long as the OEM but you will smash it up anyway so just go with the cheaper one.
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"Serenity through Sobriety"
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Re: High flow vs. "regular" catylitic convertors
[Re: OOP'S]
#881303
04/17/08 01:17 AM
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Joined: Aug 2003
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Wow i only paid $60 for my magnaflow highflows.. i had some for sale on here and no one even messaged me... 50 bucks more for a highflow? you're getting screwed... i can prob get some more in june....
89 4Runner 3" BL, M/T locks, 33"bfg mt, bilstein, Kayline, tubebumper, toyotafiberglass panels TBI: Elocker,3.4 w/ORS,b+b,S2Sstg2cams,arias pistons,P+P intake,TRDs/c,URDpullies+7th,downey headers,MAPECU2,WEGO WB, SupraMAF,walboro255,stg4clutch, EPaOo2 sim
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Re: High flow vs. "regular" catylitic convertors
[Re: Greg_Canada]
#881304
04/17/08 03:08 AM
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Joined: Apr 2002
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$60, new generic weld in ones run anywhere from $55-75 at the local parts stores here.
More than tread lightly. Leave it like you were never there, nor anyone else. '90 X-cab 4.88's 33 BFG AT's, rr ARB, Headers, Ignition upgrade, cold air induction. '91 X-cab 5.29's 315's BFG MT's, rr ARB, custom bumper and flatbed
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Re: High flow vs. "regular" catylitic convertors
[Re: OOP'S]
#881305
04/17/08 04:37 AM
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Joined: Jan 2000
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...so just go with the cheaper one. x2. I put a high dollar Random Technology cat on the 4Runner a few years ago. Complete waste of money. My current one is from the parts store on the south end of Moab (Checker?) and works fine for a fourth the price. Mark
''Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something.'' - Plato http://www.scaldeddog.com
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Re: High flow vs. "regular" catylitic convertors
[Re: ScaldedDog]
#881306
04/17/08 04:27 PM
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Joined: Aug 2001
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I'm running an inexpensive Magnaflow, tastes great, less filling.
-Bill '87 4Runner w/ '96 5VZ-FE, 'Red Chili II' '97 Taco XtraCab 3RZ-FE, 'BlackBean' TLCA # 13257, Rising Sun 4x4 Club Land Use Coordinator "He who stops being better stops being good." -Oliver Cromwell
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