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Re: Am I being Detained...Am I free to go [Re: ryany] #886343 05/19/08 05:59 PM
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I go through checkpoints all the time. They just call them DOT scales.


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Re: Am I being Detained...Am I free to go [Re: Brian894X4] #886344 05/19/08 06:36 PM
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there was no probable cause to stop, in theory the Officer had no right to detain


How the heck do you know this, and what theory are you talking about?

Why not ask at the check point what's the reason for it. Most all check points I've been through are for home land security. The rest have been for agriculture and pests.


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Re: Am I being Detained...Am I free to go [Re: Brian894X4] #886345 05/19/08 06:43 PM
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I would have fully supported the idea of everyone one of us having a national ID, being required to carry it and being required to show it whenever asked by law enforcement.


No way dude. YOU!?!?!?! wanted this!?!?!?! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Re: Am I being Detained...Am I free to go [Re: LandRaider] #886346 05/19/08 09:42 PM
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I would have fully supported the idea of everyone one of us having a national ID, being required to carry it and being required to show it whenever asked by law enforcement.


No way dude. YOU!?!?!?! wanted this!?!?!?! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />


There is a good book called IBM and the Holocaust. It a good read for anyone who thinks ID cards are a good idea.

http://www.ibmandtheholocaust.com/

There is no need for these checkpoints. Just start throwing the employeers in jail for hiring illegals and problem will stop. The rest of us should be free to go about our merry lives in the Utopia of the USA <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Am I being Detained...Am I free to go [Re: LRJ4x4] #886347 05/20/08 05:05 AM
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I would have fully supported the idea of everyone one of us having a national ID, being required to carry it and being required to show it whenever asked by law enforcement.


No way dude. YOU!?!?!?! wanted this!?!?!?! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />


There is a good book called IBM and the Holocaust. It a good read for anyone who thinks ID cards are a good idea.

http://www.ibmandtheholocaust.com/

There is no need for these checkpoints. Just start throwing the employeers in jail for hiring illegals and problem will stop. The rest of us should be free to go about our merry lives in the Utopia of the USA <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" />


Very good book. I have it in cassette form as well, if anyone wants to borrow it. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

Re: Am I being Detained...Am I free to go [Re: stony-man] #886348 05/20/08 06:41 AM
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Dude! You said cassette!! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Ahem. You can also see if your local library or higher institute has this book. Ours does.


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Re: Am I being Detained...Am I free to go [Re: stony-man] #886349 05/20/08 10:45 AM
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I would have fully supported the idea of everyone one of us having a national ID, being required to carry it and being required to show it whenever asked by law enforcement.


No way dude. YOU!?!?!?! wanted this!?!?!?! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />


There is a good book called IBM and the Holocaust. It a good read for anyone who thinks ID cards are a good idea.

http://www.ibmandtheholocaust.com/

There is no need for these checkpoints. Just start throwing the employeers in jail for hiring illegals and problem will stop. The rest of us should be free to go about our merry lives in the Utopia of the USA <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" />


Very good book. I have it in cassette form as well, if anyone wants to borrow it. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


Getting quite a bit off topic, but it doesn't seem that different than many of our own corporations (er, I'm sorry, "international" corporations), and their collaborations with regimes like Iran and China, including specificly to target and detain dissidents...think Google, Yahoo, and Microsoft for starters.


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Re: Am I being Detained...Am I free to go [Re: Brian894X4] #886350 05/20/08 02:10 PM
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The Toilet started to flush on this country back in 1971, when the Nixon administration started to open up relations with China. I think our Gov. took some pointers from the other when it comes to control of population.


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Re: Am I being Detained...Am I free to go [Re: stony-man] #886351 05/20/08 04:29 PM
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Very good book. I have it in cassette form as well, if anyone wants to borrow it. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


If you wanna burn that to CD Audio, Wave or MP3 on CD, I'll take it. Unfortunately, I don't think I have a working cassette player any more even though I have quite a few books on "Tape". <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Am I being Detained...Am I free to go [Re: off-roader] #886352 05/21/08 03:14 AM
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Very good book. I have it in cassette form as well, if anyone wants to borrow it. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


If you wanna burn that to CD Audio, Wave or MP3 on CD, I'll take it. Unfortunately, I don't think I have a working cassette player any more even though I have quite a few books on "Tape". <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


Same here. I'd love to listen to it on cd or mp3, but the only cassette player I own I scavenged the motor out of years ago <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />


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