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Body swap? Possible? #888092 05/30/08 11:25 AM
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wglobnik Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Just a thought, I didn't really investigate.....but I wonder if I could put a GenII body on my 98 Sport? I miss the Bouncy seats and the height in the back taken up by the under mounted spare. I do a lot of off road when I hunt and get my headlights covered with muck so I also miss the headlight washers at night on my way out.
Now I know that there is a difference in the suspension, between leaf springs and torsion bars, but I wonder about the body bolting on?
has anyone heard of this?

Bill

Re: Body swap? Possible? [Re: wglobnik] #888093 05/30/08 01:42 PM
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NathanC Offline
Roll Me Over
I'm not sure about the body mounts, but I do know that the engine sits further forward in relation to the front wheels on a Sport. That alone would probably make it a questionable swap.

The argument could be made that you could make it work, but if you are after a Gen2, why not just buy a Gen2?


'06 Dakota QC 4.7 6sp 4x4
'88 Mighty Max
'77 KZ1000 fun old bike
Re: Body swap? Possible? [Re: NathanC] #888094 05/30/08 02:42 PM
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wglobnik Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Well, I am going to buy a Gen II. I had been thinking of getting an SR with a good body and pulling the body and trying a 3.8 conversion but it just occured to me that I might be better off switching the bodies.
The Sport with the 24 valve seems to have a bit more pepe......but honestly, I think the 3.8 is a better idea. I've looked at some of the conversation by doing a search but haven't been able to get anything concrete, mostly ideas and conjecture. I'm sure the info is there, I just have to sift through it.

Re: Body swap? Possible? [Re: wglobnik] #888095 05/30/08 03:06 PM
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FrankR Offline
Web Wheeler
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The 3.8L swap is very interesting to me - particularly with an M90 blower. I'm waiting for one to turn up in the yard, but might have a long wait.

Charlie (Old Colt) has done a 3.8L block swap using DOHC 3.0L heads - it's definitely a mixed breed, but he does have it running and could likely provide some good information.

Another swap idea I like is the S/C version of the GM 3800 Series II engine - the L67 platform. Being a 90* "V", it's wider than than the 3.0L and would be a tight fit on a Gen1 - not sure about the Gen2s - but it is a low profile and might work with several transmission options. This one hasn't been done and would require a lot of research - some of which I've done.

Frank


'89 [color:"white"]G-Raider[color:"white"] [color:"black"]Supercharged 3.0L, MegaSquirt 2, lockup A/T, 2.5" exhaust, 172k, Cibie H4s/Oscar SCs, Hella Micro DE fogs, Cobra CB, Superwinch hubs, LSD rear/Aussie Locker front, Bilsteins, Lifeline AGM, Rust-Oleum
Re: Body swap? Possible? [Re: FrankR] #888096 05/30/08 04:53 PM
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NathanC Offline
Roll Me Over
With the right mix and match of parts, it would be possible to drop in a GM 3800 and still maintain the Active trac t-case.


'06 Dakota QC 4.7 6sp 4x4
'88 Mighty Max
'77 KZ1000 fun old bike
Re: Body swap? Possible? [Re: NathanC] #888097 05/30/08 05:07 PM
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MontyMcV Offline
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A modestly built-up S/C 3.8 with Active-Track... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/drunk.gif" alt="" />


Big Truck: 00, 3.5, Endeavor, 5-Spd drive line in hand!
Little Truck: 87, 2.6T I/C, MT, LSDs, Tonneau Top
Her Truck: 03, 3.8, 20th Anniv, 65k
Daughter's: 06 Eclipse, Keeping it Mitsu!
FSMs: MitsubishiLinks.com
Re: Body swap? Possible? [Re: MontyMcV] #888098 05/30/08 05:23 PM
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NathanC Offline
Roll Me Over
The Northstar V8 would be an option too. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />


'06 Dakota QC 4.7 6sp 4x4
'88 Mighty Max
'77 KZ1000 fun old bike
Re: Body swap? Possible? [Re: NathanC] #888099 05/31/08 03:32 AM
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MontyMcV Offline
Trail Leader
Now we're getting silly... A 32V V8 in front of a 5-spd with Active-Track! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/drunk.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/drunk.gif" alt="" />


Big Truck: 00, 3.5, Endeavor, 5-Spd drive line in hand!
Little Truck: 87, 2.6T I/C, MT, LSDs, Tonneau Top
Her Truck: 03, 3.8, 20th Anniv, 65k
Daughter's: 06 Eclipse, Keeping it Mitsu!
FSMs: MitsubishiLinks.com
Re: Body swap? Possible? [Re: MontyMcV] #888100 05/31/08 11:43 AM
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Y
yankneck696 Offline
Mudrunner
Ya couldn't pay me to use a Northstar in a Go-kart...
Many issues with heads/gaskets, starter position & all around reliuability.

SC 3800 is a Great idea.... Multibell 700-r4 w/ activetrac.

Ed


Yankneck = Yankee ingenuity with Redneck stupidity.
"How can I break it better?"
89 Raider 3.0 w/ 31's for now
Re: Body swap? Possible? [Re: MontyMcV] #888101 06/01/08 01:44 PM
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FrankR Offline
Web Wheeler
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A modestly built-up S/C 3.8 with Active-Track...


You mean like this one? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cyclops.gif" alt="" />

[Linked Image]

Engine

Swan Racing 4.2 Ltr High Performance Stroker Kit
Iron Stroker Crank
Custom lightweight ôHö beam
4340 steel forged connecting rods
Custom Wiseco forged aluminum racing pistons in 8.2:1 compression

Stage 3 heads
Ported Intake Manifold
Comp Cam 130# Valve springs
Yella Terra 1.7 Roller Rockers
Comp Cam Hydraulic Roller Lifters
Rollmaster Double Chain Timing Set
Custom cam grind
Comp Cam pushrods
ZZP Stage 3 Intercooler
ZZP Radiator 3 for IC
GM 100,000 mile silent pump
ZZP Oversized Aluminum Radiator
ZZP Billet Fuel Logs
Walbro 340 255lph fuel pump
65# Flow matched Injectors
Ported Gen V M90 Eaton Supercharger
8 Rib Pulley conversion
ATI Harmonic Balancer
ARP Head Studs
ARP Main Studs

It's unbelievable how much aftermarket support there is for some engines, with next to none for others.

Frank


'89 [color:"white"]G-Raider[color:"white"] [color:"black"]Supercharged 3.0L, MegaSquirt 2, lockup A/T, 2.5" exhaust, 172k, Cibie H4s/Oscar SCs, Hella Micro DE fogs, Cobra CB, Superwinch hubs, LSD rear/Aussie Locker front, Bilsteins, Lifeline AGM, Rust-Oleum
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