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Re: Body swap? Possible? [Re: FrankR] #888102 06/02/08 01:54 AM
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Big Truck: 00, 3.5, Endeavor, 5-Spd drive line in hand!
Little Truck: 87, 2.6T I/C, MT, LSDs, Tonneau Top
Her Truck: 03, 3.8, 20th Anniv, 65k
Daughter's: 06 Eclipse, Keeping it Mitsu!
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Re: Body swap? Possible? [Re: FrankR] #888103 06/02/08 02:43 PM
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Re: Body swap? Possible? [Re: hazy_daze] #888104 06/02/08 09:55 PM
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Seems to me like with all the $$$ Frank saved with the wife's Santa Fe, he ought to be slapping one of those bad boys in and done with his S/C shenanigins... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />


Big Truck: 00, 3.5, Endeavor, 5-Spd drive line in hand!
Little Truck: 87, 2.6T I/C, MT, LSDs, Tonneau Top
Her Truck: 03, 3.8, 20th Anniv, 65k
Daughter's: 06 Eclipse, Keeping it Mitsu!
FSMs: MitsubishiLinks.com
Re: Body swap? Possible? [Re: MontyMcV] #888105 06/02/08 10:30 PM
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I'm looking at it, but want to wait until I get the yard open - then I'll have plenty of parts and can cut up a Montero frame for a "true" engine/transmission/firewall rolling chassis jig and pull a 3800 engine for test fitting with the various transmission/t-case options.

Even if it all will fit, there's still a lot of work to make that swap. I might even prefer to use another truck for any attempt if the present truck is running ok.

We'll see - first I need the space, a welder, the parts (cheap) and the time.

I do like that swap, but I wish the 60* 3900 engine had a factory blower package. I think the 90* engine will be a tight fit side-to-side.

Frank


'89 [color:"white"]G-Raider[color:"white"] [color:"black"]Supercharged 3.0L, MegaSquirt 2, lockup A/T, 2.5" exhaust, 172k, Cibie H4s/Oscar SCs, Hella Micro DE fogs, Cobra CB, Superwinch hubs, LSD rear/Aussie Locker front, Bilsteins, Lifeline AGM, Rust-Oleum
Re: Body swap? Possible? [Re: FrankR] #888106 06/03/08 12:54 AM
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I wonder if there is a trade off between the 60* and 90* in the form of the whole blower/intake assembly sitting lower in the 90*, and thus clearing the hood better.

Haven't kept up on yours, is it fitting under the hood okay?


Big Truck: 00, 3.5, Endeavor, 5-Spd drive line in hand!
Little Truck: 87, 2.6T I/C, MT, LSDs, Tonneau Top
Her Truck: 03, 3.8, 20th Anniv, 65k
Daughter's: 06 Eclipse, Keeping it Mitsu!
FSMs: MitsubishiLinks.com
Re: Body swap? Possible? [Re: MontyMcV] #888107 06/03/08 01:24 AM
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Sure there is - the 90* sits lower and the lower intake manifold would be easy to adapt to a blower even if one wasn't already available. The width is one issue, but the other is that 90* V6s usually need balance shafts where 60* V6s do not. Any serious buildup of a 3800 requires a double roller timing chain which means elimination of the balance shaft. The solution is to balance the rotating assembly, but I don't know if it gets rid of all vibration or not. I would expect it would be ok if extremely close attention was paid to weight balance, bore alignment angles and power balance - making sure that each cylinder produced equal power.

Mine has a small scoop about 2" in height for blower clearance.

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The 3800 might fit without a scoop, but I suspect the oil pan would have to be highly modified.

Frank


'89 [color:"white"]G-Raider[color:"white"] [color:"black"]Supercharged 3.0L, MegaSquirt 2, lockup A/T, 2.5" exhaust, 172k, Cibie H4s/Oscar SCs, Hella Micro DE fogs, Cobra CB, Superwinch hubs, LSD rear/Aussie Locker front, Bilsteins, Lifeline AGM, Rust-Oleum
Re: Body swap? Possible? [Re: FrankR] #888108 06/03/08 02:43 AM
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A body lift would make some more room.


Fasteddy's advice is occasionally sound...
Re: Body swap? Possible? [Re: hazy_daze] #888109 06/03/08 06:55 PM
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I think a BL would effectively lower the engine and make the 90* deeper into the wheel wells. If it's the wideness of the 90* that seems to the challenge, not sure lowering the placement will help.


Big Truck: 00, 3.5, Endeavor, 5-Spd drive line in hand!
Little Truck: 87, 2.6T I/C, MT, LSDs, Tonneau Top
Her Truck: 03, 3.8, 20th Anniv, 65k
Daughter's: 06 Eclipse, Keeping it Mitsu!
FSMs: MitsubishiLinks.com
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