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Re: The End of Hummer? [Re: LRJ4x4] #888682 06/08/08 09:15 PM
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That video can't be real. GM says those standards are unrealistic. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />


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Re: The End of Hummer? [Re: LRJ4x4] #888683 06/08/08 09:29 PM
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Impressive, but not that impressive. I haven't seen any evidence to address its stability on the road. Seems like the CG would be way off, but then I'll give it the benefit of the doubt with some evidence of how it handles. One of the keys to survivability is accident avoidability.

This rig probably fits in fairly in low speed city traffic where most other cars are of simliar size, like most of Europe, but how will it do at highway speeds, where literalliy every single other car on the road is bigger, and usually, much bigger, like here in America?

The whole idea of spending that kind of money to buy a car that gets a few more mpg compared to a conventional Honda or Toyota compact car is not really worth it, IMO.

And as far as the smart car goes, the Europeans don't exactly have the best reputation for reliability either. I have no idea if the smart car is reliable or not, just stating that some of the other cars from that region don't last as long as many cars from Japan for example.

I personally would rather go out and buy used Honda or Toyota for a fraction of the cost, drive it till the wheels fell off, throw it away and buy another one. And would still be miles ahead in savings.

Maybe I'm bias, since that's exactly what I have. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

The likes of the "smart" car and Prius for that matter, are nothing more than status symbols, IMO. It's all about "look at me, I'm green, BS". Not every single buyer of course, but many of them.

Now, if the "smart car" got 100 mpg or even just 80 mpg, then maybe I'd think differently. But it doesn't.

However, I did read that Europeans had developed a 4 door, 4 passenger, diesel hybrid about the size of the Prius that got 70 mpg. That was a couple of years ago, but I guess it never went into production. Now that's something that would impress me.

Any vehicle that size that gets the same gas mileage as many Japanese compacts from the early 1980s just doesn't do it for me.


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Re: The End of Hummer? [Re: LRJ4x4] #888684 06/08/08 11:47 PM
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I'm thinking about wondering under a trailer. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shiner.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/zombie.gif" alt="" />

How is the NX treating you? My mom had that same car when I was in HS. It took a sound thrashing from my rookie driving days.

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and had been a few weeks since my last fill-up.
Whats that like? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />


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Re: The End of Hummer? [Re: cmonty72] #888685 06/09/08 01:02 AM
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How is the NX treating you? My mom had that same car when I was in HS. It took a sound thrashing from my rookie driving days.


You talking about Les' Nissan Pulsar? He gave it a friend in need.

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and had been a few weeks since my last fill-up.
Whats that like? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />


Excellent. Like I'm driving during the days of cheap gas. I still go on pleasure-drives just for the helluvit. Even in the trail rig. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

EDIT: Forgot to mention...out of curiousity, I calculated here how much it would cost me to drive from San Diego to Bangor, Maine in my little car.

$516.24 round trip (6,490 miles). <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

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Re: The End of Hummer? [Re: LRJ4x4] #888686 06/09/08 05:23 AM
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The smart is a Tank...the evidence

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju6t-yyoU8s

It to the point that it's stronger than your body can take and it would be true of any car no matter what the size.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDU5BU_qSJU&amp;feature=related

Get one of those and you can say you flopped over in a smart car 4 wheeling. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />


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Re: The End of Hummer? [Re: DRaider90] #888687 06/09/08 06:48 AM
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The smart is a Tank...the evidence

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju6t-yyoU8s

It to the point that it's stronger than your body can take and it would be true of any car no matter what the size.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDU5BU_qSJU&amp;feature=related

Get one of those and you can say you flopped over in a smart car 4 wheeling. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />


Now that's some impressive 4 wheeling. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />


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Re: The End of Hummer? [Re: Brian894X4] #888688 06/09/08 07:07 AM
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Truly sad news.


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Oh well................

Re: The End of Hummer? [Re: Hydra747] #888689 06/09/08 01:27 PM
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It would be sad news. If, they had stayed true to their roots and not built pansy <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/butwiggle.gif" alt="" /> poseur, wannabe, chromed-out pieces of dung....


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Re: The End of Hummer? [Re: hazy_daze] #888690 06/10/08 01:32 AM
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Hey Brian, those key looking things are for the driver and a buddy to wind it up for the run. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

Re: The End of Hummer? [Re: reepersteve] #888691 06/10/08 08:42 AM
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Yeah I remember back in 06 when I found out the H1 was being discontinued, it sucked. They should have killed off the H2 and left the H3 as a dream instead of killing off the H1. But the H1 lives on in its military form, and you still can buy an H1 used or a surplus Humvee.


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