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To much oil in 5spd.??? #889778 06/09/08 02:56 PM
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Quinnchuck Offline OP
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Last night I did a service on the 89 D50 4x4 2.6L ,while checking the transfer case the oil was low so I topped it up.Took half a liter or more humm.So I buttoned it up & preceded to the trans, undid the filler plug ,& oil was poring out <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />.Is there a seal between the two cases to allow the oil to transfer from one case to the other?Can't really remember now? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />Thanks <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />


"YOU CAN ONLY LEARN SO MUCH KNOWLEDGE IN A LIFETIME..BUT IMAGINATION IS WHAT MAKES THE WORLD GO AROUND"
89 POWER RAM D50 4X4 XCab 2.6L
91 Grand Prix GTP 3.4L
87 Jeep YJ Laredo 4.0L EFI

Re: To much oil in 5spd.??? [Re: Quinnchuck] #889779 06/09/08 05:29 PM
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MontyMcV Offline
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Transfer and tranny are separate. I filled mine transfer once on what didn't seem to be too much of a slant. Then later when checking on leveler ground, a bunch poured out the fill hole. Maybe you had the same?


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Little Truck: 87, 2.6T I/C, MT, LSDs, Tonneau Top
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Re: To much oil in 5spd.??? [Re: Quinnchuck] #889780 06/09/08 06:52 PM
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LandRaider Offline
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If you have a 5 speed the cases share fluid. I'm pretty sure anyway.


87 Raider 4D56td v5MT1
31's..Basically Stock
Re: To much oil in 5spd.??? [Re: LandRaider] #889781 06/10/08 01:48 PM
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Quinnchuck Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Well ,I did rebuild the transmission 7years ago , & for the life of me I just can't remember <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />.I thought I had it level enough so I could change engine oil?All I can remember when the trans & transfer were split it had the spacer casing ( which is just a spacer,hollow tunnel ),then a seal & bearing for the out put shaft on the trans to go into on the transfer case hmm...


"YOU CAN ONLY LEARN SO MUCH KNOWLEDGE IN A LIFETIME..BUT IMAGINATION IS WHAT MAKES THE WORLD GO AROUND"
89 POWER RAM D50 4X4 XCab 2.6L
91 Grand Prix GTP 3.4L
87 Jeep YJ Laredo 4.0L EFI

Re: To much oil in 5spd.??? [Re: LandRaider] #889782 06/10/08 04:40 PM
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fasteddy Offline
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There may be case flow paths, but there's a seal on the tcase input shaft. The tranny/tcase adapter is wet from the tranny side, since R/5th live out there.


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Re: To much oil in 5spd.??? [Re: fasteddy] #889783 06/11/08 02:43 AM
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52degrees Offline
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There may be case flow paths, but there's a seal on the tcase input shaft. The tranny/tcase adapter is wet from the tranny side, since R/5th live out there.


That's what I found when I replaced my transfer case. I find it interesting that Mitsu spec'd GL-4 for both rather than just the transmission.


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Re: To much oil in 5spd.??? [Re: 52degrees] #889784 06/11/08 12:18 PM
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Quinnchuck Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
So... nothing to really worry about,or is there?


"YOU CAN ONLY LEARN SO MUCH KNOWLEDGE IN A LIFETIME..BUT IMAGINATION IS WHAT MAKES THE WORLD GO AROUND"
89 POWER RAM D50 4X4 XCab 2.6L
91 Grand Prix GTP 3.4L
87 Jeep YJ Laredo 4.0L EFI

Re: To much oil in 5spd.??? [Re: Quinnchuck] #889785 06/11/08 03:48 PM
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fasteddy Offline
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Well, the tcase input shaft seal may be gone.

I think the full levels of the two are different, referenced from the ground. An inspection of the fill plug height would be conclusive. Make damn sure you have it dead level before you check fluid levels. Finally, a real use for the tilt-o-meter....


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Re: To much oil in 5spd.??? [Re: Quinnchuck] #889786 06/12/08 08:06 AM
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ES_97Sport Offline
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I know on the newer 5-speeds the tranny and t-case are seperate. Mitsu specs GL5 for the tranny and t-case.

Mine does the same thing, though. Guess it'll tell you how level your garage floor is. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Edward


'97 Montero Sport LS 5-Speed 3.5L conversion
SAS Dana 44s & ARBs, 35" Yoko Geolandar M/Ts
NP231 B4R doubler/Terra Low231/RP 5.38 229:1
'99 Montero Sport Limited 4WD SAS 3-link project
'03 Montero Sport Limited AWD
'97 Montero Sport LS 5-Speed 4WD
Re: To much oil in 5spd.??? [Re: ES_97Sport] #889787 06/12/08 01:27 PM
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Quinnchuck Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
O.K... so making sure the vehicle is perfectly level,is the trans & transfer case perfectly level in the frame,or do they have that little pitch either way <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />?I guess get the o'l level out & see <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cyclops.gif" alt="" />.
So.. if the vehicle is hot & on any kind of hill,slope ect.for period of time it would transfer from one case to the other if the input shaft seal on the transfer case is hooped?Well... then if the tranny is getting more oil then the transfer case ,this would start pushing oil out the front seal on the tranny,or any where there's weak spot gaskets maybe?Is this correct? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />
I guess your right there fasteddy make sure the dam thing is level.


"YOU CAN ONLY LEARN SO MUCH KNOWLEDGE IN A LIFETIME..BUT IMAGINATION IS WHAT MAKES THE WORLD GO AROUND"
89 POWER RAM D50 4X4 XCab 2.6L
91 Grand Prix GTP 3.4L
87 Jeep YJ Laredo 4.0L EFI

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