ouch, your really swinging <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/notooth.gif" alt="" />, I guess i better learn the technical names and functions before I open my mouth, all I really know is I had one hell of a time with the thing you still had to tighten down the bolt on the tensioner if not the tension would loosen and cause a slapping sound. thats why I got good at taken it on and off. I would come pick you up from Columbia my self but my brakes are shot and the gas situation, well you understand. So were set, its the battle of the timing belt change. Looser buys the winner a beer. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> you should take it easy on the rookie, I am just looking for a little advise and give my 2 cents even when its unwanted. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />