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running again but inconsistent [Re: oldgreen] #896854 08/03/08 08:24 PM
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lefty915 Offline OP
Need a Spot
Thanks for everyone's info. Running again. Put on new fuel pump and fuel lines, and adjusted timing a little more. What puzzles me is the inconsistent operation. Drive for a few minutes, stopped at red light and it idles real low and sometimes dies. Stop somewhere for a few minutes. Runs fine and then idles fast at a light. Everytime I start it, it seems to idle differently sometimes high sometimes low.

Thinking about switching to a weber 34 DGEC carb. What da ya think?

Also not sure how to adjust the choke so that I don't have to hold the gas pedal to warm it up. Is this easy to do.

85 cj7 6cyl 258

Re: running again but inconsistent [Re: lefty915] #896855 08/03/08 09:07 PM
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BobRowe Offline
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What carb do you currently have on it?


1977 CJ-7, fiberglass body, AMC 360 w/ headers, DUI ignition, Edelbrock intake and Holley 4150 carb, TF999, Dana 300, 4.56 gears lockers, York air comp, 4" susp lift, 2" body lift, BFG 35" M-T tires, Megashifter, AGR pump & box, REP8000 winch.
Re: running again but inconsistent [Re: BobRowe] #896856 08/04/08 02:46 AM
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lefty915 Offline OP
Need a Spot
Carter BBD 2 barrel for 258 I6

Re: running again but inconsistent [Re: lefty915] #896857 08/04/08 03:55 PM
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oldgreen Offline
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Thats exactly what my 7 did when it had the same set up. It was caused by those 2 fuel metering rods that you can see with the air cleaner off and looking down into the carb. I first switched to a weber [we don;t have have smog inspections here yet], and found it to be ok but a little picky to set up especially for cold starting. It goes down to minus 35 here in the winter. Then I switched to a Holley truck avenger 470cfm. It worked real well but was a little big for a 258. After that I put a 304 in the 7 and put the Holley on that motor where it remains to this day.
Another card swap you could do is a motorcraft 2100. Just do a search thru old posts to find the info. I don;t know where you live but if you have emissions testing you are prob best to keep it stock. My friend has a 77 cj7 with a 2 barrel BBD I gave him and he just uses a can of compressed air and using the thin plastic tube in the nozzle directs the air into those 2 metering rods to keep them clean and that works for him. They are responsible for the idle, once you step on the gas a different circuit in the carb comes into play.


84 CJ7 304 HEI 35 BFG,s rear dana 60 with detroit locker,Viar compressor, fibreglass body, 2 1/2 spring lift, TF999auto, Warn 8000 winch, Plus a cool little trailer on 35,s. JEEP stands for just empty every pocket
Re: running again but inconsistent [Re: oldgreen] #896858 08/05/08 03:34 AM
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BigJim Offline
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Thats exactly what my 7 did when it had the same set up. It was caused by those 2 fuel metering rods that you can see with the air cleaner off and looking down into the carb. I first switched to a weber [we don;t have have smog inspections here yet], and found it to be ok but a little picky to set up especially for cold starting. It goes down to minus 35 here in the winter. Then I switched to a Holley truck avenger 470cfm. It worked real well but was a little big for a 258. After that I put a 304 in the 7 and put the Holley on that motor where it remains to this day.
Another card swap you could do is a motorcraft 2100. Just do a search thru old posts to find the info. I don;t know where you live but if you have emissions testing you are prob best to keep it stock. My friend has a 77 cj7 with a 2 barrel BBD I gave him and he just uses a can of compressed air and using the thin plastic tube in the nozzle directs the air into those 2 metering rods to keep them clean and that works for him. They are responsible for the idle, once you step on the gas a different circuit in the carb comes into play.


Old green the metering rods change diameter as they are pulled out of the jets.. Depressing the skinny pedal causes the need for more fuel to increase with speed..
Them rods are the high speed metering devices.. The idle is adjusted by the two front screws on the bottom plate of the carb..
Might be that screwing the screws all the way in and then back out could loosen any stoppage and cause better idle..
The amount of fuel coming from the idle system is relied upon by the high speed metering devices.. If the idle is stopped up there isn't enough fuel at ANY SPEED.
Big Jim <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />


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Re: running again but inconsistent [Re: BigJim] #896859 08/06/08 10:16 PM
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oldgreen Offline
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I bow to your superior knowledge Jim, always a pleasure to learn something <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


84 CJ7 304 HEI 35 BFG,s rear dana 60 with detroit locker,Viar compressor, fibreglass body, 2 1/2 spring lift, TF999auto, Warn 8000 winch, Plus a cool little trailer on 35,s. JEEP stands for just empty every pocket
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