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Crawler Gear Install #906335 09/20/08 03:08 AM
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Jim_Paget Offline OP
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I have just finished (?) the installation of my Revolution 3.1 (nee Terralows) in my '91 Trooper, manual tranny. Due mostly to my lack of motivation, I have been working on this periodically for 11 months.

I finally got everything buttoned up today and pulled the rig out of the garage. Everything works EXCEPT I can't move the lever into 4-lo. 2-hi works as does 4-hi.

I had tested everything prior to putting on the rear portion of the case, but neglected to test it after the case was re-installed.

I really don't know where to start.


Jim Paget
88 YJ with a few changes

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Re: Crawler Gear Install [Re: Jim_Paget] #906336 09/20/08 06:05 AM
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mlclark Offline
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I really don't know where to start.

Take the transmission back out. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Either you have the wrong rail (I know, I know, we talked about this, but it is still possible).

or you dropped one of the detent balls into the great abysss and the shift rail cannot move all the way forward.

Good luck,
michael

Re: Crawler Gear Install [Re: Jim_Paget] #906337 09/21/08 02:42 AM
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BigSwede Offline
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Can you move the control lever to the 4lo position at all?


Steve Carlson - 95 Trooper LS expo rig
Serenity now!
Re: Crawler Gear Install [Re: BigSwede] #906338 09/21/08 03:49 AM
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Jim_Paget Offline OP
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No, I can't move it at all. I did discover a bit more today.

When I installed the rear portion of the case, I had the lever in 4-hi as directed. I did check as I was installing to make sure that the front output was not disconnecting. It was connected through it all, and in fact I had to move the lever back to 2-hi in order to turn the output so I could install the front driveshaft. However, I can no longer move it to the 4-hi position.


Jim Paget
88 YJ with a few changes

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Re: Crawler Gear Install [Re: Jim_Paget] #906339 09/21/08 09:53 PM
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BigSwede Offline
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I wonder if you didn't get those "dogteeth", or whatever they are called, that sit in the "High-low synchronizer assembly" (my shop manual's term, basically the hi-lo clutch hub) in correctly. I had a heckuva time getting those assembled right on mine.

Another thought, does the shifter lever work with the cover off?


Steve Carlson - 95 Trooper LS expo rig
Serenity now!
Re: Crawler Gear Install [Re: BigSwede] #906340 09/22/08 12:58 AM
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Jim_Paget Offline OP
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That will be the next step to pull the tranny again, but that will have to wait for a week when I have some time off again.


Jim Paget
88 YJ with a few changes

www.rrr4x4.com
Re: Crawler Gear Install [Re: Jim_Paget] #906341 09/22/08 02:52 PM
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BigSwede Offline
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I did mine in the truck. Not sure at this point I'd pull the tranny if I were you; I had the cover on and off my t-case about a dozen times before I got it figured out (air rachets rule!).


Steve Carlson - 95 Trooper LS expo rig
Serenity now!
Re: Crawler Gear Install [Re: BigSwede] #906342 10/02/08 01:23 AM
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Chad Hunter Offline
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The early 5-speeds are the most in depth install. They have the most parts you have to deal with.
The only set that I installed that had a similar issue was when I was doing a '97 and I had the wrong shift fork. It had very similar issues. Its been a while, but I'm pretty sure you need the -4 shift fork.
In any event you are going to have to pull the t-case. It isn't too bad to work on while it is in the truck.


1987 trooper LS.'94 3.2, SAS,35's , lots of dents and rust. Now, improved, with more dents.
1995 trooper LS. Wife won't let me improve this one.
1996 trooper. I'll need something to modify when the '87 finally rusts away.
Re: Crawler Gear Install [Re: Chad Hunter] #906343 10/02/08 01:27 AM
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Jim_Paget Offline OP
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I went ahead and pulled the tranny. It really wasn't a big deal since all the bolts and nuts were nice and clean. I haven't had a chance to dig into the beast yet.

When you say shift fork, do you mean shift rod? The fork should be the stock fork, shouldn't it?


Jim Paget
88 YJ with a few changes

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Re: Crawler Gear Install [Re: Jim_Paget] #906344 10/02/08 01:53 AM
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strawmyers Offline
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Yes, its the shift rail that caused issues early on. The one that ended up working in my Amigo (5-speed, slip-yolk) was the -4 mentioned above.


Sean Strawmyer
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