That Nam vet isn't wearing a dress uniform Stoney. Must not be very many vets in your area? We have a large Nam vet presence in Alaska. Lot of those boys who DID come home had a lot of hate in their face and moved up here to start their lives over. One guy I know from Blowing Rock, NC got drafted with 14 guys from his hometown, and only 4 came back.

Usually you'll see these guys in their gear like the gentleman depicted in this thread for events like Veteran's Day, rallies, and to get out with folks like the American Legion Riders.

You can ask these guys what unit they were in, and they'll tell you, and where they were. Their organization patches are still on their gear; sometimes I think when these guys don their stuff, they do it in honor of their fallen comrades, so we, who don't know better, don't forget them.

As we shouldn't; nor should we forsake this new generation of young people thrust into war. The only difference is that those guys were conscripted; we volunteered.

The travelling Vietnam Memorial Wall has been to Alaska twice. We read the names; we remember. I see misty eyes out in the crowd. I have seen my abovementioned friend's flashbacks and rants. The trauma and anger are very much there. Thankfully as the years pass, it has ruled him less. I've known him for about 12 years. My brother has killed people. It still bothers him, but he was one of the few who actively sought help, as did my next door neighbor, who was a sniper.

And do note I said some of these guys don't even HAVE a wall. About a third of our homeless population in Fairbanks is comprised of vets.

I also know a couple Korea/Nam vets who will say very little about their experience, esp Korea. Can't get squat out of my uncle about Korea. I do know we probably had more casualties in that war that died from starvation and exposure than combat, or dang close. Another uncle from WWII didn't say a lot, but he was up in Dutch Harbor before going onto the USS Wadleigh; historically saw a lot of action. His brother is an MIA off the coast of Papua New Guinea. I found the Missing Aircraft Report a couple years ago; one of our fellow moderators was in Manila, and got his name rubbed off the Tablets of the Missing at the War Cemetery at Ft. Bonifacio for my family.

We should not forget our fallen, nor those whose lives have been changed forever. They still fight that war in their heads in the form of PTSD.

These guys have paid the price; having long hair is NOTHING.

If anything, it's ROTC/JROTC and academy cadets out of uniform who get me honked off, and I let them know; esp the latter, being the taxpayer is footing the bill for their education and military commitment for over 10 years.

Dang Stoney...

Jeeeeze you guys. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> I was talking about the young punk in the video...no one else. We have tons of nam vets around here...like I said; never seen one in dress uniform. I'm not judging anyone, just saying I don't like it, and in my opinion looks disrespectful to the uniform, and the country.

Although I think judging someone by the length of their hair is shallow I respect you as a vet as well and really just wanted to know if retired or ex military could still wear their class As?

I know folks who wear their class A's to events like one of their kids getting promoted or VFW/Legion activities, so it's accepted for those things.

People are buried in their old A's if they express the wish to do so.

I couldn't get mine on if I had to...it shrunk around the middle somehow. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

I serverd active for 5 years, but never wore my Class A after graduation from AIT. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Yah, the BDU's went in the garage sale after my 10 year inactive reserve commitment; A's went into some wool quilts then a bonfire. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />

Ron Paul post election:

Part 1

Part2

Last link is the best.

WND

Forbes

More WND

Forgery examined

Obama needs to present to the US, verified, authentic proof that he was born in the US...him not letting his birth certificate info be released to the public seems very suspicious to me....how can we trust this douche to do what is right for OUR country, if he can't be honest with us about ANYTHING.

Oh, what dark, dark times lie ahead. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Wouldn't have matter who landed the prize in my book; we're screwed either way. That should be his criteria before gettting the 'football'