Your kidding, right? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />

I've seen all the YouTube interviews, etc...I just don't buy it Phil. All of their so called "proof" was debunked in my opinion.

Hey, I'm not convinced we landed those cats on the moon though. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

No, those who want to believe it was torched will believe it was torched....... and it won't do any good to try to explain that the breaking angles on the topmost edge (in the photo) are exactly what an engineer would expect to see when the impact was from that direction on a cast aluminum piece - and the break/tear angles on the lower side (in the same photo) are exactly what an engineer would expect to see on the off side as the pole pressured and levered the off-side to break and shear downward.

Nobody would think those are water stains, either. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

What I'd like to know is how they torched the aluminum and left jagged edges (as in broken) without leaving dark burnt stains on the cut edges. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> Those guys are great with the acetylene stuff...... must have been using some inert unobtainable gas torch.

Frank

Why do you even bother Frank? I think they are pulling your leg, anybody with a lick of sense would know that's a break not burn. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

Anyone with a lick of sense would question if a 757 hit Pentagon why don't we see one. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Some incredible physics here. A force applied to the upper portion of the pole shears the base evenly at the bottom.

Well not always evenly at the bottom - sometimes evenly at the top...almost - exactly where it was designed to break <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> :

That's a good question...... and I'll be durned if I know, Lieutenant.

But I'm beginning to understand why every psychiatrist I see appears to be loony...... they have to listen to this stuff all day long.... every day. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

Maybe there's a new paradigm in the anti-government political protest movement underway..... a sort of Cynthia McKinney focus group. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> Heck, if Alex Jones is the king, then she's the queen of all this stuff - not only does she think 9-11 was an inside job, she thinks the Pentagon executed 5,000 people by a bullet to the head and dumped them in the swamp during Hurricane Katrina:

Hot Air

Of course, the video in that link has been pulled, so that might be proof that it's a CIA plot to discredit Alex Jones and Cynthia McKinney. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Frank

Time to resort to that trusty ol straw man eh Frank? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Cuz gee - there isn't a 757 is there?

Yeah Alex Jones is so full of it (July 2001)



Just plain sad <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

Nah.... the quintessential straw man model is set by those who jump from one conspiracy theory to another - never seeing the end of one when it's challenged, but instead jumping right to the next in an attempt to use one to prove another. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

And now we're supposed to believe that only Alex Jones could predict in July 2001 that there would be a terrorist attack in the US - after the WTC had already been bombed by Bin Laden's crony Ramzi Yousef in 1993. How enlightened. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

And now the internet bloggers have better engineering ideas than Purdue University?:

Purdue University

Frank <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />

How was it challenged? I said its cut, you said no its not. Is that the best challenge out there? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

Unfortunately probably. Cuz coincidence theorists always base their argument on a predetermined conclusion.

You said it was designed to break at the bottom. I showed you another Pentagon pole that is evenly cut at the top...

So if the discoloration isn't a water mark - what is it Frank?

My 3 yr old has a better idea. Where are the engines? And why is the tail intact? The hole was 16 ft. Once again - making the evidence fit the predetermined conclusion - that 60 ton 757 hit the Pentagon. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />