Well, I guess Phil needs a little help with the simple questions:
1) If it wasn't a plane what was it?
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2) Where are the people?
Let's see if this helps:
Flight 77 Eyewitnesses
at the Pentagon on 911
ELAINE McCUSKER: "Traffic is normally slow right around the Pentagon [...]. I don't know what made me look up, but I did and I saw a very low-flying American Airlines plane that seemed to be accelerating. My first thought was just 'No, no, no, no,' because it was obvious the plane [...] was going to crash."
MIKE WALTER: "I saw this plane, a jet, an American Airline's jet [...it] slammed right into the Pentagon."
OMAR CAMPO: "It was a passenger plane. I think an American Airways plane. I was cutting the grass and it came in screaming over my head. I felt the impact. The whole ground shook and the whole area was full of fire."
RYAN JAMES: "When I looked up on my left [...] I see an American Airline plane. A silver plane. I can see 'AA' on the tail. I noticed that the landing gear were up. [...then] he hit full gas [...] and went straight in [to the Pentagon ...] I recognized it immediately as a passenger plane."
JAMES CISSELL: "Out of my peripheral vision I saw this plane coming in and it was low - and getting lower. I thought, 'This isn't really happening. That is a big plane.' Then I saw the faces of some of the passengers on board."
STEVE RISKUS: "I took these pictures seconds after the plane hit the pentagon. I was traveling on route 27 towards 395 when the plane crossed my path from the right about 100ft in front of me and crashed into the pentagon."
CBS News Special Report (CBS News transcripts, 9/11/01): Witness: The plane "clipped this pole over here. Hit this other pole and slammed right into the building. Huge explosion and then utter pandemonium, as you might imagine. I mean, everybody was screaming, 'Oh, my God.' [...] There was no doubt about it, it was American Airlines, slammed right into the building. And there was no doubt about it, whoever was piloting that plane was aiming for the Pentagon."
KOVR 13 News Tonight, KOVR-TV (Video Monitoring Services of America abstract, 09/11/01): "Interview - Jennifer Brower, witness, says she can't believe she saw an American Airlines plane crash into The Pentagon."
NBC News Special Report (NBC News Transcripts, 09/11/01): "Now, according to eyewitnesses, it was a American Airlines 757 that came sort of from the direction of National Airport."
MSNBC Special Report (transcript 091100cb.455, Sept 11, 2001): REP. BRIAN BAIRD (D), WASHINGTON: "We had been watching the coverage in New York [...] Maybe a minute later, my staff was looking out the window and said, 'You know, there are not supposed to be any airplanes in the air, but there's an airplane.' She looked and said, 'Hey, everybody, there's an airplane out here. What's going on?' And the next minute, she looked out the window said, 'My God, it hit the Pentagon.'"
TV 6 Prime Time News WITI-TV (Video Monitoring Services of America abstract, 09/11/01) "Interview - Mike Walter, witness to Pentagon attack, saw American Airlines jet coming."
NBC Nightly News (Video Monitoring Services of America abstract, 09/11/01): "Interview - Unidentified woman, witness, says she say a commercial plane go right into the side of the Pentagon."
The Press Association Limited (09/11/01): "A woman eyewitness told CNN of the plane crashing into the Pentagon: 'A commercial plane came in. It was coming too fast, too low and then I saw the fire that came up after that.'"
The Washington Post (09/12/01, A1): "In the hazy hours that followed the attack, it was unclear which of four hijacked planes ended up where. But witnesses soon identified the aircraft that smashed into the Pentagon as an American flight, and then as Flight 77, which was unusually light on passengers this day."
The San Diego Union-Tribune (09/12/01, A3): "Several witnesses said the twin-engine Boeing 757 came in low and fast and may have clipped light stanchions before hitting near the ground level on the west side of the building."
The Guardian (09/12/01): "A pilot who saw the impact, Tim Timmerman, said it had been an American Airways 757. 'It added power on its way in,' he said. 'The nose hit, and the wings came forward and it went up in a fireball.'"
United Press International (09/11/01): "an eyewitness near the Department of Defense in Arlington, Va., said he noticed American Airlines markings on the aircraft that struck the Pentagon moments before it hit the building at 9:39 a.m. Tim Timmerman, who said he was a pilot, told CNN in a telephone interview that he viewed the passenger jet as it struck the building. Arlington County firemen said that there were American Airlines markings on the pieces on the ground."
You can click on the web link to access the full story by each news source.
And for those who would like to see the debunking of this "conspiracy theory" by Goddard, here it is:
web page - main I particularly like this part:
From a stand point of good analysis, what is most disturbing about the given theory is how much its believers are willing to allow to become inexplicable by accepting its flawed argument falsified above. A good theory explains circumstances, but this theory makes them more inexplicable. For example, if Flight 77 did not hit the Pentagon, then what became of Flight 77 and its passengers?
I think I can answer that:
1) The plane hit the Pentagon.
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2) The passengers are all dead.
See, the problem with the "Takers of the Red Pill" is that they begin with a false premise - that others have already taken the blue pill and their course of seeking the Red Pill Truth is all that matters. They believe that most of the world's population lives under an illusion and are nothing but sheep that don't think - but are conditioned to accept the rationale of the day en mass. Only the "Takers of the Red Pill" can find real truth..... and it will be different than whatever the others believe, no matter what. They then set about trying to prove a predisposed Truth that contradicts the real Truth that they believe the "others" to be predisposed and/or brainwashed to believe.
And so, in formulating the hypothesis that gives them their self-import, they insist they won't live under the perceived illusion (itself an illusion) - and instead enter the delusional state of illusion that presumes that commonly held wisdom can't possibly be correct - because it's represented by the blue pill swallowers - not knowing if all of the majority has swallowed the pill or not, but under the deluded and brainwashed idea that they have. The "Masters of the Takers of the Red Pill" now have these "Super Sheep" under their spell and send them out to disrupt society.
But wait...... society challenges their lies and asks them simple questions that they can't answer, causing the "Takers of the Red Pill" to become confused because all that they have been fed and brainwashed to believe by their Masters has not been quite so easy to explain. And the desire to prove that Truth is never what it seems, coupled with the reality that the simplest questions of their version of Truth cannot be answered by them.... confound them to the point of madness.
And so it goes - around and around - from one conspiracy to another - all the time certain that the next conspiracy theory will turn out to be accurate and they shall be righteous.
They even gather in groups in coffee houses and on the internet to exchange theory - like old men in a barber shop.... one lie begets another and is topped by yet another until anyone left standing is quite insane. Ahhhh, but he's their leader - the leader of the insane...... and now qualified to become ordained as a "Grand Master of the Red Pill Takers".
This head guy will of course someday go out in a blazing gunfight with the FBI, CIA or the Mossad <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> - a shame.... when he could have been saved by one simple Truth:
EASE UP ON THE RED PILLS AND TRY A COUPLE OF THE BLUE ONES!
Frank <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
