Re: The eons old modus operandi
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12/22/08 04:58 AM
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Well, if you're enjoying it, let's add a little more factual evidence to the list: After recovery of the remains of the passengers, crew and hijackers from the wreckage of Flight 77 INSIDE THE PENTAGON, the remains were turned over to the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology - based at Walter Reed Army Medical Center - for identification. DNA testing was done mostly at Dover AFB and of the 64 civilians on Flight 77, the remains of all but 5 were identified: Armed Forces Medical Examiners In New York, where the monumental task of identifying the remains of 2,823 victims believed to be dead continues, no remains have been linked to the 10 hijackers who crashed two airliners into the World Trade Center. About half the victims' families still are waiting for their loved ones to be identified, though it's likely many never will be because so much of the site was incinerated.
In contrast, the remains of all 40 victims in the Pennsylvania crash and all but five of the 184 victims at the Pentagon site were identified months ago. CBS News - August 17, 2002 After the remains were identified, some of the personal effects of the dead were returned to their families: "During an interview earlier this week, Koch delicately handled eerie mementos of the crash found during cleanup: Whittington's battered driver's license... a burnt luggage tag and a wedding ring lie on a book dedicated to those lost in the events of Sept. 11, 2001. The wedding ring belonged to Ruth's daughter and the luggage tag belonged to one her granddaughters."
OnlineAthens ôSuzanne Calley died aboard American Airlines Flight 77 when terrorists hijacked the plane and sent it crashing into the Pentagon... Rescue crews were able to pull CalleyÆs body from Flight 77Æs wreckage. Jensen [CalleyÆs husband] spent last yearÆs anniversary of the national tragedy in Washington, D.C. There, a Pentagon official - assigned to CalleyÆs family as a liaison - gave Jensen his wifeÆs wedding ring, which had been recovered from the plane.ö Gilroy Dispatch My dad, George Simmons, was on the plane because he was accompanying his wife, Diane, to go to her father's funeral in Hawaii. They were going with the ashes, which were to be spread in Kauai...
The FBI contacted us to get DNA samples, so they could identify the victims-they had to take blood from each one of us. It was awful. We're in my dad and Diane's house in Great Falls, having to tell the FBI exactly what they look like, and look for the name of their dentist, and identify in detail what jewelry they may have been wearing, what clothes. They told us to save samples of their hair from their brushes upstairs, and their toothbrushes...
We got his wedding band back. We got his business card with his name on it. We got his day planner, and it was only charred along the outside rim, but it's completely readable, each page. And his address book-it was charred on the outside as well. It was like a leather binder, and every page was readable. They would probably have been in his carry-on bag, which he usually brought, a canvas one, so it was kind of bizarre-it makes you think, did he really suffer through this? How long did he suffer before they passed away, because, if all that is so readable, it's pretty disturbing. The smell of the items was horrible, horrific. It was so overpowering. The FBI sent it wrapped in plastic, and when I opened it in my apartment, my entire apartment smelled like that for a couple days. They found Diane's Visa credit card and her checkbook. The National Journal, August 31, 2002 So, we've now established: 1) Eyewitnesses who said the plane hit the Pentagon. 2) 757 parts all over the crash scene. 3) Dead and burned passengers still strapped in their seats found by an extraction team inside the Pentagon. 4) All but 5 aboard Flight 77 were identified through DNA testing. 5) Some personal effects of those passengers were found along with their bodies inside the Pentagon and further inside the wreckage of an AA 757 (aka Flight 77).... and returned to the families of the victims. Now - 1) Phil says that Flight 77 didn't crash into the Pentagon, but doesn't know what did. 2) He agrees the passengers are probably dead, but he doesn't know how they died and has no alternative scenario. 3) He agrees there might have been an AA in the area doing... what - a flyover? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />.... but doesn't know what happened next. 4) He doesn't know where Flight 77 might have otherwise landed. 5) He damned sure doesn't know how the Flight 77 passengers could have been extracted from inside the Pentagon unless the plane crashed into the Pentagon. In other words...... Phil don't know jack. Frank <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
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