Good laughs all. So the FDR just 'quits' 2 seconds before impact. That's mighty convenient isn't it. And so now its not a problem of inputing the wrong pressure - these things are just 'plane' useless. Three revs on the dial certainly has to be "considerable room for error"...but we drawn the line at 13 independently interviewed , unanimous witnesses. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Gotcha.



Read your 19 eyewitness. Most of them don't even state their position. Most of don't even say they saw it hit. We don't even have names for some of them. And of course - none of them detail a flight path in way. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/sleeping.gif" alt="" />

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If you want to reconstruct it, start with the closest witnesses and work your way through all of them


Will do. Lets start with the closest - our boy Lloyd. Ya know the one that had one of the light poles go through his cab...that's pretty darn close eh?

Lloyd sets us straight on the facts. Stick to your story Lloyd. You don't want to be suicided over this. Speaking of coincidental suicides - let see what now dead camera man James Ingersoll (committed suicide a few days after handing all of his photos to the CIT guys) shows us from behind the lens on that day:

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'Liquify' is not my terminology. It is your apologists terminology in order to explain how a plane with 44ft tall tail strikes a building without leaving so much as a scratch on the windows and surface above the hole. You can't have it both ways. Why is the VOR tower still standing?

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...... I found the plane for you:


<img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" /> Thanks Frank. Cuz if we aren't allowed to see the plane - a computer graphic will certainly do <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> Hey at least that one has engines <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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But, I too find it difficult to wrap my brain around a conspiracy this big not being leaked with hard evidence to substantiate the leak.


Your not reading all the info I've posted. Investigate what the insiders have said. Look at Able Danger...

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No matter what you say, the facts remain.


And those facts are what? That all data supplied supporting the claim that a dude that couldn't check out in a Cessna flew into the Pentagon is unreliable? That the gatekeepers of the information should be trusted - we don't need to see a plane hitting it? What facts? That the leadership directly falsified documents regarding air quality at ground zero should be trusted nonetheless regarding their 'factual' claims? That the White House went on Cipro 3 days before 9-11? What other facts remain that support the official story? That some of the hijackers were living with FBI informants? That mainstream media was reporting WTC 7 collapsed 20 minutes before it fell at free fall speed into its own footprint? That thermate has been found in the debris of the towers? That there was never an investigation of the WTC evidence - carted off to China in the days and months afterward, some of it saved to build us a warship? That molten pools of metal remained in the basement levels of the WTC for months following the event - even evidenced by NASA infrared imaging? That seismic readings preceding the collapses demonstrate massive detonations?

What other facts remain?


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