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Those photos are taken from 2 different angles, and that pole in the foreground is quite an obstruction...or it could be that the pole was hit with such speed that it was "thrown", instead of simply just falling where it stood.


Yes he was walking down a hill and toward the right as he snapped photos.

Here's a gif I made of the three shots. Big file - 1MB

This is the pole that, according to Lloyd went through his windshield. Very peculiar (as is Lloyds extended interview) physics going on there but regardless... In the first frame you can see his cab perpendicular to the road on the left side. Now if the pole was still sticking out of the windshield it should be there - this is a big pole. Also you will note with the reference marks against the median divider that the first 2 shots were from a higher elevation - as James walked down a hill to the scene - so from this higher angle you'd assume if it was laying in its place seen in the 3rd shot, you would have a better view of it. Time info on the exif data for the images is 9:49 for the first, 9:49 for the 2nd, and 9:52 for the 3rd.

Certainly nothing worth the long diatribes that have ensued here - there's just not enough that can't be determined from the shots - What about Lloyd though...and his wife? Its perfectly acceptable for Frank to scream 'conspiracy!' and claim they've been photoshopped (these photos have been available and used by mainstream news sources and 9-11 sites of both truther and coicidence apologists since 9-11), but seeing any of the 85 confiscated surveillance tapes that should show the plane hitting the building - "They don't have to show you anything." I think its clear from the perspective of the vertical poles that he's moved much closer to the scene, further down the hill, and to the right in the 3rd shot - which is why the perspective of the car (and the missing exit sign <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />) has changed.

#1 exit sign visible
sequence two - exit sign visible behind tree
moving down and to the right - exit sign obscured by trees - not photoshop'd
Now down near street level and shoo...- Sorry Frank - no photoshop conspiracy <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/ignore.gif" alt="" />



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And planes of that size smashing into a building and exploding...there are your seismic readings.


No, these are right before the collapses. There's multiple recordings of this from different stationary cameras- here's one clip - @ 25 sec.


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Here's another example of how gullible folks are and how far "Truthers" will go in an attempt to create their own "sleight-of-hand" - they show a hole punched by rescue workers - or by the nose of the plane - or by whatever and ask "How could a plane fly through that hole? There's not even any damage from the tail or wings."


BWAHAHHAHAHA!

Well, lets hope your disinfo is merely due to your ongoing selective researching of the facts and not outright falsehood...but I wouldn't put it past you.

There is no Truther that would or has ever claimed your ridiculous and obnoxious point that that is where the plane entered the Pentagon. Just stupid lies. The fact is it was Popular Mechanics that claimed the hole was made by the planes landing gear and independent researchers - through transcripts, interviews and photo research, determined that it was a punch out hole to gain access from the back - as is now generally accepted by all sides.

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I think they see what they want to see and believe what they have already predetermined in their own mind.


I see a tower in the flight path - what do you see?

So where are we now?

NTSB data - unacceptable - does not work with official story
FAA radar data - unacceptable - does not work with official story
VDOT tower does not exist???
13 independently interviewed witness, unanimous in flight path direction of travel. - unacceptable - does not work with official story
Anonymous accounts of bodies still strapped in the seats - Perfect.
Two sentence testimonies of a plane and an explosion, no statement of the witnesses perspective, flight path, etc - Perfect.
DNA evidence exclusive to government investigators tasked for all 4 event scenes - Perfect.

"anti-government subversion" - not hardly - that'd be you Frank. You've got good company...and even better coming in 8 more days.

My agenda is pretty dangerous thoug... and those that would veil the evidence.

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