A childhood friend of mine was USMC stationed at the Pentagon that day. I take his word that it was a plane hitting the building. I've known him long enough to smell his lies like a fart in an elevator.

I'm still waiting for Bush to attack Iran and declare a national emergency and cancel the 2008 election as the 'prophecy' was told...waiting...waiting...I'll be in the bar. Come get me. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/baby.gif" alt="" />

I guess that settles it then <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Bush did declare a state of emergency...for DC.

Glad I could wow ya <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

I'll have the pizza boy say it and post it to youtube so you'll believe it. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Prove it.



A skyscraper has never been hit by a plane of that size before.

He describes it like mesquito netting being punctured by a pencil...but does that pencil carry tons of jet fuel? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> And the smallest 767 is the size of the largest 707.

And as for that camera shaking video...it looks to be on top of a building...with a helicopter heard in the background...could it be possible that the rotor wash from the helicopter could cause the camera to shake...

or as mentioned earlier...there must have been hundreds of things inside that building that could explode, and steel as thick as the beams used in a building that size would make a tremendous amount of noise breaking.

All your comments and retorts are flat out ridiculous as far as I'm concerned.

Well, the feeling is mutual...

Who stood to gain? Bin Laden? Its just stupid.

Read the PNAC documents - and then look at the world around you since 9-11.

Where's this jet fuel? I see it in the crash. But there is not evidence of it following the fireballz. I hear one of the Battalion chiefs on the impacted floors reporting two isolated pockets of fire and that they could knock it down with two hoses. Multiple crews got to the impacted levels before they came down. I see people standing in the open gashes waving for help. You don't do that in 600 degree temperatures. You don't even stand across the street from a building on fire with those temperatures. It wasn't an intense fire. It wasn't a fire that could weaken steel and subsequently bring down a building with 47 massive steel core pillars encased in concrete down to the ground at free fall speed in a pulverized plume of pyroclastic flows, embedding 270 metric ton sections of the building into buildings 400 feet away. If it was - prove it.

I just don't have the time anymore. If you want to rationalize that the video - which sync's with many others regarding the tremor - is helicopter wash...then go ahead. It doesn't change the reality. It doesn't change the fact that your government refuses to show you the 85 confiscated tapes that had images of whatever it was hitting the pentagon, it doesn't change the fact that bush and blair were dreaming up other false flags as proven by the downing street memo. It doesn't change the fact that the white house deliberately falsified EPA documents regarding air quality at ground zero that has killed and terminally stricken thousands of rescue workers. It doesn't change the fact that Bush and Cheney went on Cipro a few days before 9-11. It doesn't change the fact that Coleen Rowley of the FBI, was repeatedly turned away regarding her pre-9-11 information and requests for a warrant for Mousaoui. It doesn't change the fact that the very guy that wired Atta $200K in the days before 9-11 was breaking bread with George Tenent that morning in D.C...It doesn't change the fact that hijackers were living with FBI informants. It doesn't change the fact that some of the hijackers were living on US military bases. It doesn't change the fact that we now have an Orwellian state brought into being on Patriot Acts of Homeland Insecurity - because of 9-11. It doesn't change the fact that we are now into year 8 of a bogus war that has enhanced the US importation of heroin, killed our troops, endangered the rest, for what? To get bin Laden? Which one? The one with Botox and beard coloring or the one Bhutto said died in 03 or the one Dubai nurses said was chilling with CIA while he was on dialysis in July 01? or the ambidextrous one that 'confesses' 9-11 was his doing?

It also doesn't change the fact that we are in Iraq because Sadam aided and supported al-Quaeda and planned to use them to disseminate his mountains of WMD's either I suppose. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

And it doesn't change the fact that the very same powerhouses of neo-con ideology and foreign policy are sitting as pretty as they ever were - this time under their arch-rival antagonist - a democrat liberal. Apparently they even eat out together now.

I guess that means the world's becoming a better place afterall. Props to W&Co. for keeping us all safe. Constitutional liberty was pretty overrated anyways, I mean what good is it if we're all dead from these crazy islamofascists? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" />

Honestly, everything is not a conspiracy but every historical event is shaped by conspiracy. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

Did our trustful loving government spend our money on a "gay bomb"? Did our government dose enlisted folks with chemicals and/or psychoactive substances? Did they create a think tank for "false flag" events?

Dang i could go on forever about my suspicions but I dont want to fight nor do I think we should amongst ourselves. That is exactly what they want and we have to resist playing into the divisive plan they have for us. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" />






This message of peace was brought to you by "Mirrior Pond Pale Ale" <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

Ahh - the collusive "WE" and the nefarious "THEY" - the roots of all evil and the seeds of paranoia. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Frank <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />

THAT is the root of all evil and seed of paranoia...

GAWD, I can't wait to get back and have some of that. It's the little things!!!

Now back to your regularly scheduled bickering...

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Naahhhh - here's the latest root of all related bickering and the Truther-sheeps' new-found inspiration:

Alex Jones Loses It

He's some example, eh?

Frank