Well, I wouldn't end it with Jim Hoffmans site. The guy is a very dubious character. And his counter is typical of steering the evidence (or in there case lack of) toward a single answer vs. letting the evidence speak.

EG - his 'implausible' bullet points. All I can say from my own experience the guy is full of poo. I've seen a total powerdown in a building I've worked in for wiring upgrades. (Not that it matters as the claim is that is what was told to him. The claim is not that it was needed to upgrade the system. Obviously Forbes saw it as a bogus cover for rigging the building) Security cameras typically DO NOT have independent power backups...regardless its something he counters with no basis for the contrary.

...and of course its what disinfo ppl like this leave out that's the most egregious. Fact: NY papers reported the removal of the bomb sniffing dogs on the Thursday before the attack, sourcing employees of the security contractors for the building. And isn't just a happy coincidence that it was Marvin Bush's company that provided the entire security management of the buildings.

...and these statements regarding their removal were submitted to the 9-11 Omission - of course, like everything else - they were not mentioned at all in the commission's findings.

Scott Forbes did an interview and it should be on youtube. AFAIK he was the only survivor of those in his company that worked there.

There are pictures out there that WTC office workers took of the dust that covered their offices after various weekends of drilling and God knows what on these sealed off and guarded floors above/below them...

BTW - that article on the thermite was previously published as a peer reviewed study in Chemical Physics journal

Some Glenn Beck for comic relief

Dobbs takes the red pill

That's exactly correct. A buddy of mine is in the National Guard and he was sent to the border to "assist" the border patrol. They (the National Guard) were allowed to do NOTHING other than drag a chain link fence up and down the border to clear the footprints so they could count them the next day. He'd tell us about the drug cartel's sniper towers on the Mexico side.

If that stuff interests you take a look at Hopsicker. He lives down in the middle of the action in FL. The straight dope.

He's the guy that video interviewed Atta's girlfriend...

A little sampling of how it works: 1999 - Richard Grasso, chair of the New York Stock Exchange meets Raul Reyes, a commander of the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC), which at the time controlled about a third of Colombia and about half of its coca-producing area...Grasso went there to mark "the beginning of a new relationship between the FARC and the United States" ~Grasso.

Awww, so sweet...



...when you look into the CIA/Wall Street connections - at the top no less, it's just stunning - all the way back to its beginnings by Clark Clifford, Dulles, etc.

"At some level of the governme...ell the truth about what happened."

-John Farmer

Not available on the US amazon site...link to Canada's site.

"In August 2006, the Washington Post reported, "Some staff members and commissioners of the Sept. 11 panel concluded that the Pentagon's initial story of how it reacted to the 2001 terrorist attacks may have been part of a deliberate effort to mislead the commission and the public rather than a reflection of the fog of events on that day, according to sources involved in the debate."

"The report revealed how the 10-member commission deeply suspected deception to the point where they considered referring the matter to the Justice Department for criminal investigation.

"We to this day don't know why NORAD [the North American Aerospace Command] told us what they told us," said Thomas H. Kean, the former New Jersey Republican governor who led the commission. "It was just so far from the truth. . . . It's one of those loose ends that never got tied."

Farmer himself is quoted in the Post article, stating, "I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described .... The [Norad air defense] tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years.... This is not spin. This is not true."

Top Ten Reads (and vids) of the Week

1. Germany Bans Cultivation of GM Corn

2. Harvard economist: Legalize all dr...alternative scenario in the Netherlands.

3. Germany deletes WikiLeaks.de domain after raid

4. Self Righteous Neocon Republicans Complain about DHS Report (The report was written in 2007)

5. Bill Richardson at 2008 CFR-meeting: Bilderberg Bankers are all for Obama

6. Noooo, couldn't be....NSA wiretaps exceed the law

7. 'They were just following orders.' ... protected from prosecution under Obama.

8. Rethink afghanistan ...And a followup - Link 2

9. Sustainable Development = Population Reduction.

Population Reduction - Part 2

10. ORGANIZATION ISSUING BONDS BASED ON GUARANTEED PAYMENTS FOR THE VACCINATION OF POOR POPULATIONS

Flashback of the Week

In the spirit of the OK City Bombing - 14 years ago this Sunday...lifting this from a researcher friend of mine:

"I came across a really solid mainstream news investigation special that dives deep into
the Oklahoma City bombing operation in 1995. Namely, that Mcveigh and Nichols were
being strung along by intelligence operatives as well as provocatuered Islamic extremists.
As well, that the ATF had total foreknowledge, and that shape chargers placed on the Alfred P Murrah columns was what truly destroyed the building:

Part 1

Part 2

Alex Jones also has a really great segment on some of this stuff in his 9/11: Road to Tyranny documentary, and the BBC Conspiracy Files actually had a decent special on some of this stuff.
Then there's the fact that Zacharious Moussaoui's roomate on the campus of Oklahoma City(Melvin Lattimore) was positively identified as working with Mcveigh and the other OKC terrorists as well as the WTC 1993 terrorists.

And of course the fact Terry Nichols spilled the beans on OKC being a government op:

Link

Even more bizarre, are the reports that "John Doe No 2" Hussain al-Husseini, a man authorities believed worked with Mcveigh...was the baggage handler at Boston Logan the morning of 9/11.

Also, a lot of reports on Terry Nichols meeting with accused WTC plotter and KSM cousin
Ramzi Yousef in the Philippines: Google"

Rep. Jane Harman Caught on Tape Agreeing to Lobby for Alleged AIPAC/Israel Spies

Port Authority of NY/NJ: Records For Reported WTC Renovation Work Destroyed On 9/11



Scroll down the page - Adian's research is good.

The company I currently work for sometimes does work for Turner. Mainly painting nanothermite on steel columns to be covered with fireproofing.

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