Without trying to pick another fight, and I'm taking a bit of a privilege lumping bretwalda here with me; It's not science we have a problem with. It's politically driven "science". As I said before, in this country, science (as we hear of it on the evening news) is politics and politics is (a) religion.

It's not that all science is BS, I just don't believe anything I hear on the news or in print.

Science... real, apolitical science, is tremendously interesting to me. I've always had a passion for chemistry and physics, as well as other physical sciences. And science of the body is really interesting.

While I understand that many real and beneficial discoveries have come about due to government funding of science, I believe that our government's involvement in science has taken a severely wrong turn. Their motives for involvement in science are no longer to be trusted.

I hope this clears things up.

Phil?