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lift #915900 11/15/08 04:50 AM
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phewson Offline OP
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How much lift can someone get out of a trooper? Is it the same as s-10? If anyone knows, please share.



Re: lift [Re: phewson] #915901 11/15/08 05:04 AM
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strawmyers Offline
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Suspension or body or both? What year Trooper? No, it will share no common parts with an S-10.


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Re: lift [Re: strawmyers] #915902 11/16/08 08:59 AM
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phewson Offline OP
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I would like to put 35's under it, so what ever needs to be done I will do. Oh yea, it is a 95 trooper



Re: lift [Re: phewson] #915903 11/16/08 09:05 PM
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mlclark Offline
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Ah, the great lift discussion. We've not had one in a while.

The shortest answer is you are going to have to cut metal to get 35's to fit. You might get away with removing flaps and modifying the wheel well liners, but it will be super tight.

Other than that, lifting your Trooper is the same as any other IFS rig that does not have relocation kits for the front end (like Toyota does). You get to turn the torsion bars. This produces a few side effects, other than an increased ride height. The ride gets harsher, the alignment must be brought back into spec and you are limited by the droop snubbers.

You can swap the ball joints from the top of the upper a-arm to the underside. This gives you a *little* more room to work with. There are some spacers available from Matt at www.independant4x.com to help with the alignment if you do flip the ball joints.

Additionally, you have to address the tie-rod issue. Mainly, they like to break. Matt also has some nice beefy upgrades. Darlington used to have shields that clamped over the tierods, but I do not think those are available anymore.

You are probably going to want to install manual hubs on the front end (if you don't have them already), as spinning the CVs at a steep angle all the time seems to shorten their serviceable life.

Then, we get to the back. The two options are longer coils or coil spacers. There are several threads about what people like.

In the end, you are limited to the ~4" range. You can go a little higher in the back, but the front is the limiting component.

You can also look at a body lift. Several people have done them on the 2nd gens. IIRC, they are pretty much a DYI thing. Spacers are available, but there are no real pre-fab kits.

Search the thread here. You'll find part numbers for the ARB coils or specs for custom coils. You'll also find out what others have done.

Good Luck,
Michael

Re: lift [Re: mlclark] #915904 11/16/08 10:00 PM
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BigSwede Offline
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Micheal has given good general advice, here is my take as someone who has 35"s on a 93 Trooper:
If you do a 3"+ suspension lift and a body lift you probably won't have to cut the fenders for 35"s. But you might be taller and tippier than you'd like. That's why I stayed with a 3.25" suspension lift and no body lift. I had to beat the back lower 8" or so of the front wheelwells with a hammer (note: dedicated trail truck) for clearance, and cut the plastic bumper a little at the front of the wheelwell.

If you go 3"+ suspension lift you will need the ball joint flip and spacer for camber alignment, and some 1/4" droop bumpstops can salvage a bit of downtravel.

If you are going offroad, the HD tie rods are highly recommended; the tie rods break pretty easily.

A front diff drop is a good idea to relieve CV angles and prolong CV life with those big tires.

Regearing is a good idea for that big a jump in tire size, 5.38 gears are ideal but are not available anymore; once in a blue moon they turn up for sale from private parties. Which leaves 4.77s as the only higher ratio than your stock 4.56. They aren't easy to find but are out there.


Steve Carlson - 95 Trooper LS expo rig
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Re: lift [Re: mlclark] #915905 11/17/08 06:49 PM
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holger Offline
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There are some spacers available from Matt at www.independant4x.com to help with the alignment if you do flip the ball joints.


the correct link is www.independent4x.com


Oleg
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