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Question on Toyota axles #922229 12/24/08 11:20 AM
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MainstreaM Offline OP
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What's the scoop on toy solid axles? Good, bad, total junk? I'm pretty sure they are a passenger drop, but that can be gotten around. Posted on a couple of toy boards and got instantly flamed for mentioning toy and mitsu in the same sentence, bout as bad as the jeep guys <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

Kane


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Re: Question on Toyota axles [Re: MainstreaM] #922230 12/24/08 05:23 PM
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www.pirate4x4.com/forum search is your friend

Re: Question on Toyota axles [Re: ThatGuy] #922231 12/24/08 06:06 PM
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I am not on the pirate forum. So please answer his question.


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Re: Question on Toyota axles [Re: ThatGuy] #922232 12/24/08 06:27 PM
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www.pirate4x4.com/forum search is your friend


The Pirate forum is not a place for Mitsubishi owners.
To the best of my knowledge only a small diff front axle was in country here other than the early FJ stuff.


Cheers, Charlie
If It ain't broke, Modify it!
87 Montero turbo Converted back in Spring1989
95 Montero SR 3.8 DOHC Only one?
93 Pajero 3 door 6G75 Mivec with paddle shifted 5 speed
Then a Gen2 SR with full coil independent suspension.
Re: Question on Toyota axles [Re: MainstreaM] #922233 12/24/08 08:43 PM
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Kane,

The Aussie version of the FJ60 (+) came equipped with full-floating rear axles and high-pinion front diffs. The ring gear and diff are similar to the Ford 9" with drop outs. With the exception of the Birfield joints, these axles appear regularly on crawlers in my area, often with 35-37" tires. Since the front axle is all plate steel and tubing, it is feasible to just swap the necessary pieces around for a driver's side drop. I've read articles that indicate overall component strength is approx. Dana 44-50 equivalent. I think they'd be good source axles for the Monty, even can sport Aisin hubs!! The Pirate write-up probably covers these bases more in-depth. The secret to posting there is "Dodge Raider"...:o

Russell


1987 Raider - Roxy
1988 Mighty Max 2.6L Turbo - Pearl
1997 Mountaineer V8 - Freddy
2000 Excursion V10 - Freya
Re: Question on Toyota axles [Re: Tag] #922234 12/24/08 09:46 PM
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I hang aroud the Toy shops here because that's the closest I can get to a Mitsu shop.:-)

As I understand things the only problamatic part is the Birfields. Rock Stomper ran them for years with 37s and larger. Far as I know the ONLY thing he ever broke were the joints. Last axle I saw was using Porsche joints; they still broke.

The current 'trend' is to transplant D60 knuckles and re-do the axles shafts to fit. It's not hard or expensive. Basically you get a Ford 9" with Dana 60 knuckles when you're done strength wise. I've seen a couple done in the last few months.

Honestly? It's a waste of time. It's still cheaper to build a D44/D60 or a Ford 9" than to try and make a Toy or Mitsu axle do the same thing. It's kinda like trying to turn a Mitsu IFS carrier into a solid axle...why???

Edward


'97 Montero Sport LS 5-Speed 3.5L conversion
SAS Dana 44s & ARBs, 35" Yoko Geolandar M/Ts
NP231 B4R doubler/Terra Low231/RP 5.38 229:1
'99 Montero Sport Limited 4WD SAS 3-link project
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Re: Question on Toyota axles [Re: MainstreaM] #922235 12/24/08 11:04 PM
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one up everybody with hybrid mitsu 9.5" with a front dana 60 and end up with sonthing cheaper and tougher than those ford 9" dana 60 combos.
This is what i've been looking into, and currie can make the shafts for this setup. Actually if you have the money you can send the 9.5" rear diff housing and they'll build the rest around that to fit your truck.


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Re: Question on Toyota axles [Re: ES_97Sport] #922236 12/25/08 02:00 AM
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Im SASin my 86 truck w/ a yoter SFA and Ive read up on em purdy well and yes the birfeilds are the weak points on those axles but granted these yoters have CRAZY ass aftermarket options available example you can buy chrome moly birfs or a D44 knuckle conversion kit for the axle and if you can find the last year of the yoter SFA (85 i think) they are gusseted all to hell compared to the first years there just a bare axle granted you can buy the gussets
(sorry if this is a wee bit irrational my works Xmas party was "intense")

Last edited by 1986powerram50; 12/25/08 02:08 AM.

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Re: Question on Toyota axles [Re: 1986powerram50] #922237 12/25/08 02:21 AM
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Mitsulvr Offline
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Flipping a toy axle is pretty easy as far as I can tell. You can bolt the pumkin in upside down basically. The front of the diff has to be modified for the ring gears. And the nuckle balls need to stay on the same sides so you have to remove and reweld them. Also trussing, gears, axles and other parts are quite cheap in comparison for me being Canada. I cant even buy a CV shaft here. I'll post pics after the weekend I'm starting my flip boxing day. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


Eric Wegerich
89 Montero as chopped as can be. Now with 5.29's
Re: Question on Toyota axles [Re: Mitsulvr] #922238 12/25/08 07:00 AM
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They sell 30 spline chromo shafts for the front. Very very strong, but can still be broken with a stupid wheeling style.

http://longfieldsuperaxles.com

Pirate is a place for mitsu owners, I go there all the time. Just dont post about a hardcore Montero. I dont post much but I have learned a ton about other stuff.


Last edited by sparkem; 12/25/08 07:04 AM.

I just want to tell you both good luck, and we're all counting on you.
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