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 Only in Illinois (and hopefully nowhere else)...
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02/20/09 03:58 AM
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http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/Bil...amp;amp;SessionID=76&LegID=41158 HB0687
Short Description: FIREARM OWNERS ID-INSURANCE
Synopsis As Introduced
Amends the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act. Provides that any person who owns a firearm in this State shall maintain a policy of liability insurance in the amount of at least $1,000,000 specifically covering any damages resulting from negligent or willful acts involving the use of such firearm while it is owned by such person. Provides that a person shall be deemed the owner of a firearm after the firearm is lost or stolen until such loss or theft is reported to the police department or sheriff of the jurisdiction in which the owner resides. Provides that the Department of State Police shall revoke and seize a Firearm Owner's Identification Card previously issued under this Act if the Department finds that the person to whom such card was issued possesses or acquires a firearm and does not submit evidence to the Department of State Police that he or she has been issued in his or her name a liability insurance policy in the amount of at least $1,000,000 specifically covering any damages resulting from negligent or willful acts involving the use of such firearm while it is owned by such person. Effective January 1, 2010.
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Re: Only in Illinois (and hopefully nowhere else)...
[Re: CapnCrunch]
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02/20/09 04:15 AM
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Joined: Oct 2002
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The simple solution:
Don't register, and keep your stuff secure when not in use.
Wow; friggin' wow. But hey, ain't this one of the 11 for the ammo accountability?
http://www.walkablecommunities.org/Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. **ubi apis- ibi salus**
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Re: Only in Illinois (and hopefully nowhere else)...
[Re: kewlynx]
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02/20/09 12:55 PM
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Joined: Feb 2004
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No joke! That's about as pointy-headed as it gets. It looks like they're trying to tie the gun owner to liability even after a weapon is stolen. If it's stolen and you don't know it (therefore don't report it as stolen), you could be liable for damages incurred by the thief as a result of his activity associated with the weapon.... That seems to be an extension of the belief that the weapon does the crime - not the shooter. I can see a narrow opportunity for a charge of "negligent ownership" in allowing a weapon to be left in the open and easy for someone to steal, but that's not the way I read this. Where is their law requiring liability insurance to be maintained on knives and vehicles that are not in service? I suspect many of those have been stolen with resulting damage to others without charging the owner. Yikes! Frank
'89 [color:"white"]G-Raider[color:"white"] [color:"black"]Supercharged 3.0L, MegaSquirt 2, lockup A/T, 2.5" exhaust, 172k, Cibie H4s/Oscar SCs, Hella Micro DE fogs, Cobra CB, Superwinch hubs, LSD rear/Aussie Locker front, Bilsteins, Lifeline AGM, Rust-Oleum
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Re: Only in Illinois (and hopefully nowhere else)...
[Re: FrankR]
#932003
02/20/09 03:54 PM
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Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,079
Body Damage is Cool
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<img src="/forums/images/graemlins/barf.gif" alt="" /> I would like to see them try and pass something like that in Texas.
Gun it and run it!
1981 CJ5,258,T-176,D300,AMC 20,Dana 30,Trxus M/T 31x10.50, Rancho 5000's, GroundPounderFab front bumper, polyethylene gas tank, aluminum dash, AutoMeter gauges
What this country needs is unemployed politicians.
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Re: Only in Illinois (and hopefully nowhere else)...
[Re: Brown81CJ5]
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02/20/09 09:53 PM
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Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 3,876
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Well that sucks. This is the first I have heard of it. Just got a new foid too.
89 2dr 3.0 AT, manual hubs. 33x12.5 MT gen 2 coils,Cranked front tbars Dons rocker protection, Front/Rear Bumpers. ARB rear locker, 2" BL, Beefed up skid plates/trailing arms. Gen II uca, 2 Bouncy seats www.youtube.com/TagGeorge
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Re: Only in Illinois (and hopefully nowhere else)...
[Re: CapnCrunch]
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02/21/09 03:15 AM
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Joined: Apr 2004
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huh? i know in recent years the constitution is the equivilant of butt wipe, but thats way over the top. it still amazes me that these aholes just dont get it, gun owners are the single largest voting block in the nation. what is it, 1 gun in ever other home of something like that? more guns are owned here than anywhere else in the world. the libs think they have the mandate for a full socialist takeover... but i think they under estimate the people. bail me out of my mortgage... sure. put food in my cubbord... great. make sure my 401k is idiot proof... awsome. force me to do something with/about my guns that god told me i would never have to do... excuse me, is that your tea?. i own, i havnt registered... i wont. from my cold dead hands. i want my country back <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />.
98' BBJ Grand Laredo 5.2 locked and loaded,.01' Gen III XLS. Frankenmonty lives on in another.
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Re: Only in Illinois (and hopefully nowhere else)...
[Re: grass13]
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02/21/09 09:37 AM
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Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 4,479
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They would have to put a gun to my head before I would register any of my guns. Then again, you point a gun at my head and I'm pointing 2 back. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/evil.gif" alt="" />
Richard E 1989 Montero - Stock-ish 1989 V6 Auto Raider - 5.3 Vortech Swap. 1987 Mitsubishi Starion 2.6t, soon to be 3.5 1983 Honda XL600R 
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Re: Only in Illinois (and hopefully nowhere else)...
[Re: StockRaider]
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02/21/09 06:14 PM
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Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 3,876
Roll Me Over
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I purchased it so long ago I dont know if it is registered.
89 2dr 3.0 AT, manual hubs. 33x12.5 MT gen 2 coils,Cranked front tbars Dons rocker protection, Front/Rear Bumpers. ARB rear locker, 2" BL, Beefed up skid plates/trailing arms. Gen II uca, 2 Bouncy seats www.youtube.com/TagGeorge
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Re: Only in Illinois (and hopefully nowhere else)...
[Re: StockRaider]
#932008
02/21/09 07:36 PM
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Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,873
Body Damage is Cool
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They would have to put a gun to my head before I would register any of my guns. Then again, you point a gun at my head and I'm pointing 2 back. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/evil.gif" alt="" /> so, if there would be a law that the unregistered gun possession is a felony, you would knowingly violate the law ? How would you be using your unregistered guns - there will be no place to shoot ? Where you would get the ammo ? Would you really endanger the lives of your family members ? ("daddy is exploring the mountains for three years..." - your child will be explaining in the school).
Oleg
Axiom 4WD 2004: OME shocks, 32" BFG Mudders, RockSliderz, OME929+2" spacers, Stinkyfab bent RE rear links, front ARB locker, rear No-Slip locker, DOR front axle lowering kit, custom middle section skid plate, IronMan torsion bars.
Deceased Rodeo'02 4WD.
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Re: Only in Illinois (and hopefully nowhere else)...
[Re: holger]
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02/21/09 09:10 PM
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Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 8,557
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They would have to put a gun to my head before I would register any of my guns. Then again, you point a gun at my head and I'm pointing 2 back. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/evil.gif" alt="" /> so, if there would be a law that the unregistered gun possession is a felony, you would knowingly violate the law ? How would you be using your unregistered guns - there will be no place to shoot ? Where you would get the ammo ? Would you really endanger the lives of your family members ? ("daddy is exploring the mountains for three years..." - your child will be explaining in the school). All my guns were recently lost in a tragic boating accident. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
87 Raider 4D56td v5MT1
31's..Basically Stock
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